Trickflow Stage 1 vs Trickflow Stage 2

fiveoho · Dec 29, 2005

specs:

stage 1 cam: 221/225 499/510 lift

stage 2 cam: 224/232 557/566 lift

im considering all aspects on which cam to run for my app. but based purely on sound, which one of these sounds better with a 1.6 rocker setup? i've heard the stage 1...and i like it. but im curious if that stage 2 has that much more of a "lick" to it?

thanks

sound clips would be great if anyone has them.

Rick 91GT · Dec 29, 2005

don't pick by sound, pick by performance and matching it to your combo.

If your motor is stock which it appears to be you really will not gain much by swapping cams, although if your stuck on doing it get the Stage 1, it will clear with out PTV issues. A Comp 270HR would also be a good choice.

Now if it is for the 331, go custom

fiveoho · Dec 29, 2005

Rick 91GT said:
don't pick by sound, pick by performance and matching it to your combo.

If your motor is stock which it appears to be you really will not gain much by swapping cams, although if your stuck on doing it get the Stage 1, it will clear with out PTV issues. A Comp 270HR would also be a good choice.

Now if it is for the 331, go custom

it will be for the 331. like i said tho, im looking at all aspects of it. im not picking a cam based solely on sound. just wondering what the difference was in that amount of lift. i considered a custom grind....but i dunno. trickflow makes a dang good cam for the price and for a out-of-the box cam

thanks

Rick 91GT · Dec 29, 2005

Neither one of those cams are really great for the 331, I would also suggest a Track Heat intake, the SH is to small for the extra cubes.

Custom grinds are worth every penny....

fiveoho · Dec 29, 2005

Rick 91GT said:
Neither one of those cams are really great for the 331, I would also suggest a Track Heat intake, the SH is to small for the extra cubes.

Custom grinds are worth every penny....

custom grinds may be worth the money. but i have a very trustworthy ford mechanic. either of those cams will be good. as for the intake, thats still up in the air. but it will be one of the trickflow series

thanks

Rick 91GT · Dec 29, 2005

Well I personally have used the Stage II cam in a customers car, the best thing we did was pull it out....it just did not perform IMO....but what do I know I just build them I see a SN seires car in your sig, those computers are picky but I am sure your Ford Mech knows that.

Good luck, the Track Heat or R would be a good choice, but you'll need to properly cam the car to make it work.

fiveoho · Dec 29, 2005

Rick 91GT said:
Well I personally have used the Stage II cam in a customers car, the best thing we did was pull it out....it just did not perform IMO....but what do I know I just build them

Good luck, the Track Heat or R would be a good choice, but you'll need to properly cam the car to make it work.

i believe i'll be good. the setup i will be running should work together with either of those cams.

...but what does my mechanic know, he just builds them

Rick 91GT · Dec 29, 2005

fiveoho said:
i believe i'll be good. the setup i will be running should work together with either of those cams.

...but what does my mechanic know, he just builds them

Go with the 58cc chamber AFR's, they have a more efficent chamber.

89white50 · Dec 29, 2005

i have a master ford mechanic who is very trustworthy (bro-inlaw). I trust him for everything EXCEPT picking out a performance combo. Putting a whole ford together, perfect, building a high output motor, no...i know more and i've only been on here learning for a couple years. Rick91GT knows more than you and your buddy combined. if i were you i would listen. If you cant afford a custom grind cam i would get a XE274HR, or something comparable. Not sure what you are looking for of course.

i will be clearencing my block in march by myself, so i will be asking you those question you told me you could answer about the process. I bought a book on blueprinting and it seem straightfoward enough. saving 200+ is beauty. thanks

fiveoho · Dec 29, 2005

Rick 91GT said:
Go with the 58cc chamber AFR's, they have a more efficent chamber.

i'll go with what i want. didnt ask for guidance. just asked for a cam compare between the 2.

post somewhere else

89white50 · Dec 29, 2005

fiveoho, stop being a jerk, Rick and jrichker are the two smartest guys on here. maybe if you knew what was going on around here you'd listen to him and :ZipIt:

8950HO · Dec 29, 2005

Naw,don`t listen to Rick,(who knows what he`s talking about)...go for the sound.The better it sounds the faster you go,everyone knows this.
Your trusted Ford mechanic is right on the money.

fiveoho · Dec 29, 2005

89white50 said:
i have a master ford mechanic who is very trustworthy (bro-inlaw). I trust him for everything EXCEPT picking out a performance combo. Putting a whole ford together, perfect, building a high output motor, no...i know more and i've only been on here learning for a couple years. Rick91GT knows more than you and your buddy combined. if i were you i would listen. If you cant afford a custom grind cam i would get a XE274HR, or something comparable. Not sure what you are looking for of course.

i will be clearencing my block in march by myself, so i will be asking you those question you told me you could answer about the process. I bought a book on blueprinting and it seem straightfoward enough. saving 200+ is beauty. thanks

first of all youre not even posting on what i had originally asked. like i told rick, i didnt ask for guidance. just asked for a cam compare. so if you are not going to help out with that question, just dont post. second, you know nothing about me or my mechanic (93 splash 347 procharged 900+ horse.... about to change to a twin 72mm turbo setup making over 1300)
how do you know what he and i know?

seems to me you spend too much time typing stupid posts rather than wrenching.

89white50 · Dec 29, 2005

if your not related to a mechanic, its like trusting a new gf. you want to, but you know shes screwing around...

fiveoho · Dec 29, 2005

8950HO said:
Naw,don`t listen to Rick,(who knows what he`s talking about)...go for the sound.The better it sounds the faster you go,everyone knows this.
Your trusted Ford mechanic is right on the money.

dick

89white50 · Dec 29, 2005

LOL okay bud...im getting the popcorn out for this one.

oh the more duration and higher lift will have a rougher idle, move ur power band into higher rpms, and scream more. of course it will sound meaner, its a far larger cam. im sure your mech. told you that though.

fiveoho · Dec 29, 2005

theres no point even posting on here.

always have too many smartass's that never answer the question asked.
too many knowitalls.

how hard is it to answer a question?

waste of time to carry this one out

FullAuto · Dec 29, 2005

fiveoho said:
theres no point even posting on here.

always have too many smartass's that never answer the question asked.
too many knowitalls.

how hard is it to answer a question?

waste of time to carry this one out

They aren't know-it-alls. They are more of know-the-obvious. Your answer is in the post directly above you:

89white50 said:
oh the more duration and higher lift will have a rougher idle, move ur power band into higher rpms, and scream more. of course it will sound meaner, its a far larger cam. im sure your mech. told you that though.

The fact that you even ask such a dumba$$ question is the reason you are getting tech advice. You're an obvious idiot. Excuse Rick for the sympathy.

fiveoho · Dec 29, 2005

FullAuto said:
They aren't know-it-alls. They are more of know-the-obvious. Your answer is in the post directly above you:

The fact that you even ask such a dumba$$ question is the reason you are getting tech advice. You're an obvious idiot. Excuse Rick for the sympathy.

still no one can just answer a question

how bout u go wrap your lips around a revolver, pull the trigger and call it a night

Rick 91GT · Dec 29, 2005

fiveoho said:
specs:

stage 1 cam: 221/225 499/510 lift

stage 2 cam: 224/232 557/566 lift

im considering all aspects on which cam to run for my app. but based purely on sound, which one of these sounds better with a 1.6 rocker setup? i've heard the stage 1...and i like it. but im curious if that stage 2 has that much more of a "lick" to it?

thanks

sound clips would be great if anyone has them.

First you asked about picking the cam by sound and I replied...

As far as my comment on the AFR's I was trying to help you make the right choice, most people do not know the 61cc and 58cc chambers are a different design.

Your guy has some nice combos I am sure you will be happy with the results, in the end that is all the matters.

To each his own, I'm done with this post.

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