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Tried to change my spark plugs!?!

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TBrad

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klaw said:
What makes me nervous about this tool is the picture in their blog thread of the extracted ground shield. Their tool first pushes the remaining porcelain further into the ground shield to expose an internal bore for the left hand extraction thread to grip onto.

The first picture is what the original intact plugs look like - notice the intact ground strap electrode.

The second picture is an extracted plug. The caption says that the electrode is broken, but it looks like a piece of the electrode and ground shield are actually missing. Did those fall into the cyclinder? If they did, I can't think that's a good thing.

Their blog:

http://http://www.denlorstools.com/autoblog/2008/11/ford-spark-plug-removal-tool-picture-of-fords-bad-design/
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"dennisb - Auto Tool Sales :

There has been no reports of this, but it is a good recommendation to take a look at the plug’s electrode when it’s removed to see. It would be fairly easy to see if a piece is missing as long as you know to look."




I never look at my old plugs. I just chuck em'.
 

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TBrad said:
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"dennisb - Auto Tool Sales :

There has been no reports of this, but it is a good recommendation to take a look at the plug’s electrode when it’s removed to see. It would be fairly easy to see if a piece is missing as long as you know to look."




I never look at my old plugs. I just chuck em'.
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OK so you look at them and see a piece missing then what? Off comes the head?
 

UrbanRedneck

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you could probably fish the piece out fairly easily with a magnet if it did fall in.
 

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Do the plugs on the '05 and up cars need to be changed that soon?????? I would have thought they would make it to atleast 100K... I can get 25K out of a set of plugs in my '87. I thought the new cars would surely have a much much higher maintainance cycle??????
 
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A bit of advice to prevent this in the future, use Nickel anti-seize on the shaft of the plug before putting them in.
 
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mustangfo

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I made sure to put nickel anti-seize before putting them all back in and just to make sure that the don't do that again I am going to clean the plugs every 10k miles.
 

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mustangfo said:
I made sure to put nickel anti-seize before putting them all back in and just to make sure that the don't do that again I am going to clean the plugs every 10k miles.
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If you remove them every 10,000 miles you won't need to use the nickle anti-seize.
 
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mustangfo

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Your probley right but I just want to be sure. Plus I drive my car alot. So I am just trying to be on the save side.
 

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The Shape said:
Do the plugs on the '05 and up cars need to be changed that soon?????? I would have thought they would make it to atleast 100K... I can get 25K out of a set of plugs in my '87. I thought the new cars would surely have a much much higher maintainance cycle??????
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No...

But some of us likes to do the upgrades.

Coils, plugs, etc.
 

klaw

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The Shape said:
Do the plugs on the '05 and up cars need to be changed that soon?????? I would have thought they would make it to atleast 100K... I can get 25K out of a set of plugs in my '87. I thought the new cars would surely have a much much higher maintainance cycle??????
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You might want to read the whole thread.
 
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And, What plugs did you use???
 
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mustangfo

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HT0. I have a zex kit on the car and planning to use a 100 shot.
 

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mustangfo said:
I made sure to put nickel anti-seize before putting them all back in and just to make sure that the don't do that again I am going to clean the plugs every 10k miles.
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Note: This is NOT a flame in any way. I am just trying to share a little experience from 38 years of wrenching on heavy industrial mechanical maintenance.

You're looking for trouble by removing your plugs every 10k miles. If you use a proper coating of Nickel Neversieze, you do NOT need or want to be messing with them that often. Neversieze will protect very very well for years. Spark plugs and all fasteners for that matter are NOT zippers and not designed for frequent removal and replacement. Even if done perfectly, it still stresses the threads and risks contamination getting into them or worse, into the cylinders themselves. You are just begging for even more problems such as cross threading, or damaging the coils and or their associated wiring/fasteners by removing and replacing them that often. I love to care for my car as much if not more than anyone but EVERYTIME disassembly/reassembly is performed on any equipment there is a risk of something going wrong and damage occuring. Just as you wouldn't stop every 1000 miles and remove and reinstall your lug nuts just to make sure they don't sieze up, you don't want to be wrenching on a PROPERLY protected and installed spark plug.


NastyStang113 said:
If you remove them every 10,000 miles you won't need to use the nickle anti-seize.
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Nasty, the reverse is true too.
 

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white07gt-cs said:
Note: This is NOT a flame in any way. I am just trying to share a little experience from 38 years of wrenching on heavy industrial mechanical maintenance.

You're looking for trouble by removing your plugs every 10k miles. If you use a proper coating of Nickel Neversieze, you do NOT need or want to be messing with them that often. Neversieze will protect very very well for years. Spark plugs and all fasteners for that matter are NOT zippers and not designed for frequent removal and replacement. Even if done perfectly, it still stresses the threads and risks contamination getting into them or worse, into the cylinders themselves. You are just begging for even more problems such as cross threading, or damaging the coils and or their associated wiring/fasteners by removing and replacing them that often. I love to care for my car as much if not more than anyone but EVERYTIME disassembly/reassembly is performed on any equipment there is a risk of something going wrong and damage occuring. Just as you wouldn't stop every 1000 miles and remove and reinstall your lug nuts just to make sure they don't sieze up, you don't want to be wrenching on a PROPERLY protected and installed spark plug.









Nasty, the reverse is true too.
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Very well said
 
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