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trouble cranking when engine gets hot

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svasica

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What are the culprits that could cause my car (in sig) to have trouble starting/cranking when it gets hot?
 

BlackGT89

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If your starter is turning over really slow, like a re-start after the car sits a bit and everything is heat soaked, I would suspect a bad ground or grounds. I had this problem when I first bought my car (many years ago). The wires would actually get hot and smoke even with a brand new battery. What finally cured it was taking off the ground strap that goes to the engine and vigorously cleaning everything until all the metals were nice and shinny. That lasted for many years and then I think I had to do it again maybe once... Good luck !
 

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Thanks. I've got a new ground strap waiting to be installed so hopefully that'll help!
 

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LT's can be hard on starters in general. Don't rule out that the starter itself is heat soaking.
 

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When i had this issue, it was indeed the starter. As soon as it cooled off, the car started right up.
 

Mr. Rustypwnz

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I had to make a heat shield around mine. it helped out very much.. its cheap and will fix your problem
 
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Had the same issue. Ended up being my ECT was bad

I had to step on the gas for it to start up when the car was hot

Any codes pop up for your car?
 

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Nope, no codes.

This is definitely related to some component i.e. starter (I've also heard starter solenoid?) or wire/wiring getting hot and therefore causing the car to have trouble cranking.

I have an OEM type larger starter. Would the hi torque mini starters be any better? My guess making a heat shield would still be required. Is that thermal shield tape a good for making a shield?
 

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Haus said:
Had the same issue. Ended up being my ECT was bad

I had to step on the gas for it to start up when the car was hot

Any codes pop up for your car?
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The ECT should not affect the cranking ability of the starting system. It would only affect the ability of the engine to catch.
 
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HISSIN50 said:
The ECT should not affect the cranking ability of the starting system. It would only affect the ability of the engine to catch.
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well i needed a starter soon after i got it fixed. i guess all those times cranking and cranking and got nothing dint help the starter.
 
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Had the same problem

It was the starter...should get something with higher cranking ability.

EX: WPS-3205 High Torque Mini Starter - Long Nose
1965-67 All & 68-73 Auto Trans 289/302/351
1967-70 390, 427, 428
1975-95 5.0 All

Havent had one problem yet (5 years later)
 
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