Ukraine

This is the kind of crap the ticks me off. If it's good (or bad) for one, it's also for the other. Partisanship at it's finest.

 
This is the kind of crap the ticks me off. If it's good (or bad) for one, it's also for the other. Partisanship at it's finest.

I have to agree with you..... ask this, IF America had stayed out of Vietnam, would it have turned out just the same today??? I think so....
 
This is the kind of crap the ticks me off. If it's good (or bad) for one, it's also for the other. Partisanship at it's finest.

Yeah, that makes no sense. What effect would arming Ukraine have had on the decision to invade? I don't think it had any effect. Putin obviously heavily miscalculated how he thought this conflict would go.
 
Yeah, that makes no sense. What effect would arming Ukraine have had on the decision to invade? I don't think it had any effect. Putin obviously heavily miscalculated how he thought this conflict would go.
I worked with Ukranian SOF in 2015 when I was stationed at a NATO base in Afghanistan, they are some tough, strong people. IF Putin ever takes Ukraine, there won't be anything left worth having. Russia is finding out what it's like to fight a tough capable enemy, rather than the defenseless civilians they were bombing in Syria.
 
In this case, the 9K115-2s would ultimately just be hauled by the rider in the sidecar so that the two-man team can get to a target area, set up, take their shot, and rapidly exit the area. A motorcycle is quick, agile, hard to spot, and can easily be hidden if need be. These hit-and-run tactics are being employed on a large scale by Ukrainian forces, and especially by ones using buggies and small tactical vehicles that can go pretty much anywhere and are hard to spot.
This makes more sense. ;)