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upgrading to 31 spline carrier and axles

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D347643

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hey I'm gonna upgrade to a 31 spline carrier unit from a explorer/f150 and should I use the 31 spline axles too? i am gonna be making about 450 rwhp (hopefully) on street with no slicks! anyone haveany opinions?

btw, i can get the 31 spline stuff for hella cheap too

thanks,

Drew
 

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If you have a 31 spline trac-loc unit or any other unit, then you have to run 31 spline axles
 
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my bad, i meant should i use the "stock" 31 spline axles or get aftermarket ones? i will have like 450 horse and will have drag radials for street.

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i say get aftermarket....you say 450 but even once your to that or mabe you already are...you know theres a good chance you will want more
 

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In order to fully put the power/torque to the ground, you've got to have traction -- in other words, if the car won't hook, the rear end/axles won't see all of that torque you're gonna be makin'. The tires act like a fuse - when they spin, the rear end/axles assemblies get a break. If you're not gonna run slicks, I doubt you'll have to worry too much about going with aftermarket axles because I think you'll spin the drag radials before you hurt the 31 spline axles. My car has more power/torque than the stock Volvo rear end is rated to handle, but I also have very limited tire space in the rear. I can only run 225 section tires - the rear end has been in the car for 8 years and about 20,000 miles because the tires spin before enough torque is transmitted to hurt the rear end.

I'd spend my money elsewhere -- once you've got the 31-spline carrier in there, switching the axles isn't that big a deal. If you find you're twisting the stock 31-spliners, you can always upgrade then. But unless you go to slicks, I doubt you'll have a problem. In any event, with slicks, the heavy duty rear end/axles and 450HP - hard launches are probably gonna require that you make some suspension and structural changes too - stronger control arms and reinforcing the control arm/chassis mounting points. So with traction, axles won't be the only potential weak point. Funny how that works, you fix one weak link, the next weak link shows up.
 
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yeah i know, totally weird... hopefully one of these days ill nail all the weak links down...

Drew
 

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D - here's the way it will work; you'll nail down the weak links in the drivetrain, then you'll want more power. Then, it starts all over again. It's only money.
 

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What kind of stock 31 spline axles could you get?
 

Michael Yount

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You know 89, you're the wise one in all this. Since the Stang didn't come with a 31 spline diff, I think my whole response, while technically correct, doesn't amount to a hill of beans. Cause I don't think there are any "stock" 31 spline axles that will work. The stock axles that will fit the diff are for trucks - unless the whole rear end was swapped, they'd have to be modified to work - and that wouldn't be worth the trouble when you could just buy new tougher 31 spliners. Good catch. So, d34 - you gotta buy new axles anyhow. So all that crap I spewed before, well, never mind. Seems that I'm the one that has nothing productive to add.
 

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i thought the newer cobras had a 31 spline unit, maybe im wrong...
 

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Don't know about the Cobras - but if that's true, I gotta think they'd be awful hard to come by. Even from wrecked cars, people are gonna snag the whole rearend don't you think?
 
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