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V8 discontinued after LX Foxes only?

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praugue

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It seems only Fox LXs had an option for a V8. Odd that one has to buy a GT to get a V8 in the newer Mustangs.
 

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makes better dollar sense to only offer it in a v8. cuts down on tooling and variations in the manufacturing process to only offer 2 different models.
 

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praugue said:
It seems only Fox LXs had an option for a V8. Odd that one has to buy a GT to get a V8 in the newer Mustangs.
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almost, the 94 and 95, not sure if was both years or not , offered a GTS version of the mustang. It was a stripped down version of the mustang gt, it wasnt too popular at the time, but i have a dealer book thing brochure, that my mom got back in 95 when she was looking at buying a brand new yellow GTS, too bad she didnt go through with it. They are pretty popular now, and alot of them were put back to gt specs, cuz at the time people didnt know what they had and started putting gt wings and such on them.
 

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There are no LXs after 93 either. It's just GT's and Coupes now. Right?
 

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Well, there was the GTS.
 

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~FrankenStang~ said:
There are no LXs after 93 either. It's just GT's and Coupes now. Right?
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I dont think there are any mustangs with the lx badging after 93, but the gts's of 94 or 95, were basically the lx of that body style and era
 

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Why sell GT performance at a discount? Give less options and people will have to buy what you've got for the price you ask for (if they're stuck on buying that car).

Funny thing is, it would be soooo easy to bring back the LX right now. They really should just put the 3V in an LX and put the 4.6 4V in the GT, then the 5.4 or bigger in the next step up.
 

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Actually the base models (3.8's) where considered LX in the ford computers they just werent badged LX's.
 

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What we need is opions. Yeah, offer the high mpg engines because of the bad fuel economy of our nation...but let those who have some more money get what they want. You should be able to bet a 5.8 in a Mustang as an OPTION at least. Heck, back in the 60's you could practically get a Falcon with a 429!
 

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foxmustangman said:
What we need is opions. Yeah, offer the high mpg engines because of the bad fuel economy of our nation...but let those who have some more money get what they want. You should be able to bet a 5.8 in a Mustang as an OPTION at least. Heck, back in the 60's you could practically get a Falcon with a 429!
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That's a good point....why do we have "models" instead of real specific options like the Mustang was founded for? That was the big deal in '65 is that you could practically build a unique Mustang just for yourself and you weren't likely to find 3 houses down from yours. Now you either get the V6 with a handful of "extras", the GT with "extras" or the Shelby. Why can't i get a GT with a blown 5.4 in it? And why the hell didn't they do this in the Fox years with a 351W options? The more i think about it, the more BS it sounds.
 

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85_SS_302_Coupe said:
That's a good point....why do we have "models" instead of real specific options like the Mustang was founded for? That was the big deal in '65 is that you could practically build a unique Mustang just for yourself and you weren't likely to find 3 houses down from yours. Now you either get the V6 with a handful of "extras", the GT with "extras" or the Shelby. Why can't i get a GT with a blown 5.4 in it? And why the hell didn't they do this in the Fox years with a 351W options? The more i think about it, the more BS it sounds.
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by including a large amount of options the profit margin for any manufactured item goes down, therebye making it a loss of money to the company. by offering a limited number of oprions that are the same for both GT and base model mustangs the assembly line will not need to change over parts or put a hold on the line to build a unique car. the way most manufacturing plants run is that you only build one type of product at a time lets say GT cars. for a set period of time you only run GT mustangs which will allow the entire line to run at a set pace and produce more vehicles. then when that run is completed the line will move all the "GT" parts out of the way and pull in " LX" parts and run the LX mustang. By using manufacturing and quality tools such as 6 sigma, Lean, and DFT you can organize an assembly line that will run both types of cars at once, but once you start getting into a wide array of options the build time goes up and the highly optioned car will hold up the rest of the line, thus delaying further productivity and reducing the profit margin for any cars built that day. by keeping it as simple as possible more units can be produced thus driving down the cost of labor per hour and most importantly keeping the price tag of the end product lower for the consumer.
 

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Production costs.
 

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All true but i think in this day of performance and hype, they would sell more cars if the options were there. Even if it's not just performance options but trim packages.
 

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that's where the dealers come in the dealer performance packages come in . then you can get the SC option you want with the trick wheels and still have it all under warranty.
 

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Yeah but then you get huge dealer mark ups because right now the dealers are just running buck wild and Ford isn't doing a damn thing about $20k mark ups on the Shelbys.


It's kind of a shame really. We're living in a real genuine performance history in the making but it's just not the same as back in the day and even though things are arguably better for us now, i think i'd rather have all the options. That would really entice me to buy a new car.
 

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If you have enough money you can get whatever you want.
 

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The closest thing they have to a notch with the S197 cars today is the Bullitt, in that it looks pretty much like a V-6 'Stang with all of the V8 mechanicals and none of the GT tacked-on silliness - no goofy rear wing, look-at-me GT badging/stripes, fog lamps, etc. However, you have to pay more to get less (even though you're getting an extra, what, 10 or 15 horses, whooptie-doo), so you'll have to dish out $30k+ in addition to dealership markup on a "special edition" for what amounts to a base-level Mustang with a V-8 package and a couple of accent trim pieces.
 

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Yeah, I find that retarded. And also the fact that they come in black too! WTF! Black? Bullit was Highland Green...not black! So freaking gay!
 

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Yeah, I find that retarded. And also the fact that they come in black too! WTF! Black? Bullit was Highland Green...not black! So freaking gay!
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The 01 Bullitt came in Green, Blue, and Black, so at least they cut it down to 2 Colors, they all should be Green though!
 

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If I remember corectly on the fox cars the V8 option was like 1,300 bucks or something
 
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