Venom VCN 1000 Nitrous Kit

[lvmustanggt]

http://www.americanmuscle.com/vevcn10nikit.html


What you guys think ? I am just sick of saving for supercharger and never still have enough.

 

[hotmustang331]

How much you have saved?

Man you would make SO much power with almost any S/C kit on the market...just run 8PSI and hello 450+RWHP. And you will have it anytime you want it.

Nitrous is definatly cheaper, but if you have a lead foot and cant save any money as it is, your going to have a heck of a time with bottle refills . $30+ a pop around here for a 10# bottle. I also heard someone confirming that it does infact put more stress on the engine vs a S/C (as in to reach the same RWHP level) .

And with wet kits there is the possability of the fuel solenoid going bad and causing a huge backfire that will shred your intake.

With all that said, I would suggest you keep saving, BUT if you must go N20 then I HIUGHLY recommend the nitrous express systems. They have GREAT feedback and they rate their gains in RWHP vs most others @ the flywheel rating. SO the NX kit usually delivers a little more HP.
Im no nitrous guru or anything, just stating what I have heard and read.

 

[the98stang]

I agree with hotmustang. I had a NX plate kit and ended up buying a Vortech SC. Just save your money a little longer and get a used SC kit. I got EVERYTHING for 2 grand shipped (head unit, injectors, MAF, piping, front mount intercooler, BPV). If you look on the boards you can find a great deal.

 

[lvmustanggt]

I got 2000 saved. Supercharger4less got vortech supercharger for 2800 and 3300 for paxton novi 2000. I am thinking to get paxton cause it can handle up to 900hp . For now I got stock motor so want to stay with 400rwhp but down the road might forged it to get about 600rwhp max but never know I much forged internal cost ? How much labor ?

you guys are right, I am not going to get N20

 

[the98stang]

I got 2000 saved. Supercharger4less got vortech supercharger for 2800 and 3300 for paxton novi 2000. I am thinking to get paxton cause it can handle up to 900hp . For now I got stock motor so want to stay with 400rwhp but down the road might forged it to get about 600rwhp max but never know I much forged internal cost ? How much labor ?

you guys are right, I am not going to get N20

Price depends on what you want. You can get a MMR900 shortblock for less than 3 grand, and it can handle 900 bhp. VT makes some very nice products too, but their shortblocks are a bit more expensive.

 

[lvmustanggt]

Price depends on what you want. You can get a MMR900 shortblock for less than 3 grand, and it can handle 900 bhp. VT makes some very nice products too, but their shortblocks are a bit more expensive.

Does that MMR900 shortblock comes forged ? What else do I need ? or just put the Head in

 

[DAKDOG99]

Will a stock bottom end 4.6l live on a 75 shot wet kit?

 

[hotmustang331]

^ EASILY. 75 would be very safe IMO.

 

[LaserRed01GT]

I got 2000 saved. Supercharger4less got vortech supercharger for 2800 and 3300 for paxton novi 2000. I am thinking to get paxton cause it can handle up to 900hp . For now I got stock motor so want to stay with 400rwhp but down the road might forged it to get about 600rwhp max but never know I much forged internal cost ? How much labor ?

you guys are right, I am not going to get N20

Take your 2 grand and see if your bank will loan you 4 or 5k on a line of credit loan or signature loan with your 2k as a down payment. I did that when I was younger. It's also a very good way to establish good credit.

 

[Dusstbuster]

Getting a loan or going into debt for a supercharger is stupid.
Better idea...save the money and when you have enough buy the blower.
Get a credit card and buy gas and crap with it and pay it off every month to build credit.

 

[LaserRed01GT]

Let's see if I understand this correctly. Getting a credit card that has 3 to 4 times the interest rate and charging a bunch of "gas and crap" on a revolving balance credit card is a better idea????? View attachment 398468

I got lot's of loans when I was younger to make my cars faster. Line of credit loans have small monthly payments and are almost as good as student loans at building credit. I paid off all my LOC loans and now my credit is very strong because of them.

lvmustanggt you should check the classifieds on some of the popular Mustang boards. There are always great deals on used power adders. Just do your homework and make sure you know who you are dealing with.

 

[hotmustang331]

^agreed, but I say you save the money up first and then take out the loan....that way you still build your credit by making payments and have no risk of crashing if you loose your job or something. That would be safer, but still you have $2000 so if your confedent that you wont loose your job, then take out that loan and build your credit.

If you never take any risks, noone will ever trust you.

 

[Dusstbuster]

Let's see if I understand this correctly. Getting a credit card that has 3 to 4 times the interest rate and charging a bunch of "gas and crap" on a revolving balance credit card is a better idea????? View attachment 398432

I got lot's of loans when I was younger to make my cars faster. Line of credit loans have small monthly payments and are almost as good as student loans at building credit. I paid off all my LOC loans and now my credit is very strong because of them.

lvmustanggt you should check the classifieds on some of the popular Mustang boards. There are always great deals on used power adders. Just do your homework and make sure you know who you are dealing with.

It's called pay off the balance every month so it doesn't get charged interest. That way you build extremely good credit buying things you've always bought, so when you need to use your credit in the future for something worthwhile (mortage, auto loan, etc.) you will have a great score that was started via paying for gas.

Think my mom might know SOMETHING about all this after working with Wells Fargo for 25+ years now.

 

[LaserRed01GT]

It's called pay off the balance every month so it doesn't get charged interest. That way you build extremely good credit buying things you've always bought, so when you need to use your credit in the future for something worthwhile (mortage, auto loan, etc.) you will have a great score that was started via paying for gas.

Think my mom might know SOMETHING about all this after working with Wells Fargo for 25+ years now.

Then you don't have a good understanding of how credit cards work. The two most important factors that are influential to your credit rating (FICO score) are making your payments on time and how much of your credit line that you actually use. Paying off your balance to zero on a credit card every single month is the worst possible thing you can do, and will keep your credit card company from reporting positive points to the 3 major credit bureaus.

I think getting a small personal loan to buy go fast parts and build credit at the same time is a great idea.

 

[hotmustang331]

^ What if I pay it down to $1 every month....will they then send those points in? I just this last month payed my credit card bill off...I usually keep it payed off, but building my PC, along with some of the turbo parts built this card up.

Still paying on my parrents card that I used to finance the rest of it . Unfortunatly it doesnt help my credit....but my car is TTd now LOL.

 

[LaserRed01GT]

Unfortunatly it doesnt help my credit....but my car is TTd now LOL.

LOL, you are going to have to let me use that last line in my sig! That's the funniest thing I have heard in a while on here.

From everything I've read, it seems keeping your balance at or just below about 30% of your credit line is usually best. But if you are like me, you have a hard time doing that. Usually when I can, I just double up my payments most months. This has seemed to work well over the years.

 

[Dusstbuster]

I'm not trying to derail this thread or anything (He already has his question answered) but that is false...

Read up anywhere that gives advice for building credit and you'll see...

Understand the basics of credit scoring
You need to know that the two most important factors in your score are:

* Whether you pay your bills on time.

* How much of your available credit you actually use.

It's essential that you pay all your bills on time, all the time. Set up automatic payments or reminder systems so that you're never, ever late. All it takes is a single missed payment to trash your credit score -- and it can take seven years for the effects to completely disappear.

You also don't want to max out any of your credit cards, or even get close. Keeping your credit use to less than 30% of your credit limits will help you get the best possible credit score -- and should help keep you from getting over your head in debt, as well.

Finally, you don't need to carry a balance on a credit card to have a good credit score. Paying your bill off in full is the best way to keep your finances in shape and build your credit at the same time.

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.co...InYour20s/9waysToBuildAKillerCreditScore.aspx

Don't exceed your credit limit on lines of credit and credit cards
Your "available credit" is how much credit you have left on a line of credit or credit card (your credit limit minus your outstanding balance). Be careful to keep your spending below this amount.

The 20/10 Rule: Never let your credit card debt get to be more than 20% of your total yearly income after taxes. And each month, don't have more than 10% of your monthly take-home pay in credit card payments.
Have an emergency fund
Keep at least a 15% cushion of available credit in case of emergency. Or better yet, keep an emergency savings fund of three to six months' living expenses in a liquid, interest-earning account. That way if you lose your job or have a big unexpected expense, you don't have to borrow more than you're comfortable repaying.
Pay what you owe

* Always pay at least your minimum monthly payment.
* Paying more than the minimum or even the whole payment each month will cut down on the finance charges you owe.
* Don't skip any payments.

https://www.wellsfargo.com/credit_center/manage_credit/maintain_credit/howto_maintain/

Improve Credit Scores – Amounts Owed Category

* Keep low balances relative to your credit limit – 35% or lower is best.
* Don’t open new accounts just to lower your used credit capacity – having too much capacity is a risk too

http://banking.about.com/od/loans/a/ficocreditscore_2.htm

Like I said, I think my moms 25+ years of experience in the banking field have taught her at least SOMETHING about credit...and she's a large portion of where I get my know-how with it.


By all means if you are able to pay off the loan, do it, but one of THE best ways to build credit without taking out hundreds or thousands of dollars is to use a credit card. You also can inform creditors of differences in your life like a raise and whatnot that will help you along...something your credit score won't reflect. It's also fairly common knowledge that loans are a stupid way to obtain car parts. Loans, for the most part, should be used for expensive NECESSITIES, not luxuries(besides a new vehicle or such).

 

[LaserRed01GT]

My father and I do daytrading in our spare time. I try to read the financial sections of the Wallstreet Journal as much as possible. There's a Money and Investing section in there where they routinely have banks and lenders doing their own articles. They constantly talk about how it is preferred that credit card owners keep somewhat of a balance on the card. They prefer people who actually use their issued line of credit. They say that those people are always rewarded with much better credit reports than those who keep their credit card balances. Credit Card companies don't neccessarily cater to people who don't keep a balance for obvious reasons. I talked to Experian about this and they confirmed what i had read in the Wall Street Journal. If you want to get a higher FICO score and build better credit, you keep a balance of around 1/3 of your line of credit.

 

[the98stang]

Does that MMR900 shortblock comes forged ? What else do I need ? or just put the Head in

Yes, the MMR900 comes with forged pistons. Here is a description:

MMR 4.6 Street Mod 900 (up to 900HP) <b>$2800</b>
*Brand New Cast Iron 2004 Cobra Block, torque plate bored and honed

*New 4340 Forged 3.543 stroke Cobra Crankshaft w/micro polished journals at no extra charge

*New 4340 5.933 Manley H-beam Rods w/ARP rod bolts ( These US made rods are shotpeened, magnafluxed and weight matched to bring you the finest H-beam rod available for your 4.6

*New Forged Manley pistons 3.552 Bore size (High or low compression)

*Speed Pro file fit rings (precision file fit to your application, nitrous, blower, turbo or N/A)

*Speed Pro/Federal Mogul tri-metal Rod and Main bearings

*Complete Pro Assembly and Balancing for the smoothest, highest revving shortblock available.



Shortblock Options (extra charge):

Coated Pistons (ceramic dome/teflon skirt) $399.99

Brand New Current production Aluminum Block +$399.99

ARP 2000 Rod Bolt Upgrade (recommended for 900+HP) $99.99

ARP Mainstuds (recommended for 600+HP) +169.99

MMR Street/Racing Oil Pump (highly recommended) + $199.99

ARP Headstuds and MMR/Felpro Extreme Duty Headgaskets + $369.99

MMR windage tray and hardware kit (+15HP) + 129.99

That shortblock can handle +700WHP . But you will also need the cylinder heads (you could use the stockers or go aftermarket).

 

[hotmustang331]

LOL, you are going to have to let me use that last line in my sig! That's the funniest thing I have heard in a while on here.

From everything I've read, it seems keeping your balance at or just below about 30% of your credit line is usually best. But if you are like me, you have a hard time doing that. Usually when I can, I just double up my payments most months. This has seemed to work well over the years.

Go right ahead . I didnt really realize it, but that was pretty funny sounding LOL. And thanks for the advice laser....both of you guys really!

Sorry thread starter for the OT conversation...but its still tech in a way..just about how to buy the parts, not about installing them