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CarMichael Angelo

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** puts needle on broken record......

#1. Good machine. Doesn't have to be a expensive machine,....It has to be a good machine.

Enter the dragon,......AKA, Chinee machine.

I learned on a good American machine, ( Big power Hobart IIRC). I went home, and bought a hobbist grade 110v lincoln, and adjusted my style accordingly.
You learn that you have to prep your work to accomodate for the chicken peen power of that welder,....but it will weld up to 1/8" plate with no problem. Now that I've gotten to be a big boy, I have a 220v Chinee welder, bought for a fraction of what a Miller/Linclon/Hobart would've cost me that welds like a muther r.

#2. Mig is better than Flux core. A flux core machine is a good "farm implement" tool when you don't care about the looks of the weld. It'll burn hotter than solid MIG wire, and commensurately penetrate better at a particular voltage setting, but will leave holy hell behind that you'll have to clean up if you want a pretty weld. Like Chris said, It burns too hot for sheet metal work.

#3 Any body can weld with a MIG,........ ANYBODY. Unless they have Parkinsons.

It is single-handidly the easiest damn thing you can do short of peeing.

You simply get the heat, and wire speed right for the thickness ( recommendations are on side of machine), point the gun at the work,..brace the other hand against the one holding the gun to steady it, hold it at 1/4-1/2" above the work,, and pull the damn trigger.

All it takes after that is technique. (has to be learned through T&E.) I can weld the p iss outta anything,with a MIG, and in alot of cases,...looks like I tigged it.

It's all about the machine first, then the material,..then the practice...If you have good stuff it'll make you better faster.
 
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RaggedGT said:
I'll be honest- frame rails are thick,I'd imagine all those plates and the new cross member will be thick. I believe I'd spend the money once and buy a bigger 220v mig-shop around and pick the brand that gives you the best bang for your buck. I'm partial to Miller l, but there are many great machines out there..
And for a way better,more educated suggestion-I'm going to call upon three people who know way more than me
@madmike1157 @Boosted92LX @84Ttop ..


I would have tagged @hoopty5.0 and @RacEoHolic330 -but they have already commented here,so they will more than likely see this question
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Chris is right about the 220 welder, more power.

My welding has been done with a 110 welder so far. When I grow up, I'll get 220 in my garage.
 
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Don't start on your project car, get some hours welding building things like shop tables, welder cart, shelving, etc... Get some scrap metal and make lines. If you have a buddy that can weld, get some beer, invite him over and ask him to weld lines and show you how.
 
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i picked up a welder and taught myself

my welder is a cordless stick/ tig Dewalt Welder. i never use it as a stick welder though. i tig everything
 

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I had two years of welding class in high school, and was employed by a machine shop as the shop welder for a few years through school until I graduated and talked them into letting me run lathes and mills and hire another welder. To be honest, welding bored the heck out of me. All day under a hood, hot in summer, cold in winter. The machines were a lot more fun and interesting.
 
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You'll see my feeble attempts in my build thread. Just a little 110v Lincoln I got at Lowe's. Had a class back in college that let us play with stick, mig, and oxy/acetylene welding for about 5 minutes. Other than that I've really just played around with it for a few minutes and then went to town where I knew neatness wasn't going to be such a huge deal since I'll be grinding it down anyway.

Whole setup cost me 300 or so for the welder, about 200 for a 80cf bottle of gas ($38/fill), $30 for an auto dimming helmet, and another $35 for a cheap cart.
 
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I have countless hours of welding and am 100% self taught with zero formal training. Some instructional book throughout the years pointed me in the right direction but there will never be a replacement for thousands of hours of practice. Just this weekend I spent 6 or 7 straight hours welding on 2 different projects in the garage. While I'm far from the expert on all things welded I seem to get by fairly well. If I had to give one piece of advice, it would be to have patience. Don't expect a single youtube video to get you welding like the guys at Orange County Choppers... Like some of the others have said, a good quality machine is needed. In my opinion cleaning the metal before you weld is equally important. Having the right type of gas can be as important as the flow rate too. Stop at Barnes and Noble, they have to have some decent reading on the matter.



Last tip, don't wear nice clothes in the shop... While I didn't destroy this shirt or pants, I can't say they all have made it throughout the years
 
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84Ttop said:

Last tip, don't wear nice clothes in the shop... While I didn't destroy this shirt or pants, I can't say they all have made it throughout the years
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this on all counts...


and you are over dressed as a muth**** lol
 

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srtthis said:
i picked up a welder and taught myself

my welder is a cordless stick/ tig Dewalt Welder. i never use it as a stick welder though. i tig everything
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I would like to see the cordless tig
 

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RaggedGT said:
I would like to see the cordless tig
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http://www.dewalt.com/en-us/product...ther-tools/portable-stick--tig-welder/dcw100k

with this

http://store.cyberweld.com/tharc17vtigt2.html

and a straight argon bottle.

i can run 150 amp for 10 minutes before needing to re charge it. but i normally keep mine plugged in and ready to go unless i take it to the shop.
 
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srtthis said:
http://www.dewalt.com/en-us/product...ther-tools/portable-stick--tig-welder/dcw100k

with this

http://store.cyberweld.com/tharc17vtigt2.html

and a straight argon bottle.

i can run 150 amp for 10 minutes before needing to re charge it. but i normally keep mine plugged in and ready to go unless i take it to the shop.
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Man, I want that lol
 

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Went to school for welding. But he was retiring. So I'm semi-self taught. Really, it's all about how much time you put into it. You got to have to want it. It can be frustrating.
 

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Thanks for all the input! So to-do list will now be, buy a quality welder, watch videos/read some books/practice, make a bunch of random things before tackling the car.
 
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Man, I want that lol
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shes not cheap lol

if i wouldnt have gotten it from work i would have just bought an eastwood. which i still might since i REALLY need foot control
 
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Great thread. I eventually want to learn how to weld as well so I'm soaking up this advice along with you.

Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
 
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Went to school for welding. But he was retiring. So I'm semi-self taught. Really, it's all about how much time you put into it. You got to have to want it. It can be frustrating.
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Those are your welds? Beautiful work man!
 

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Davedacarpainter said:
Those are your welds? Beautiful work man!
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Yes sir. Thanks! I built these for a little while (pictured below). Best way to become a talented welder is weld in the hardest situations possible. Center console fishing towers and similar are a real test. All welds must to look great and be very strong. All while welding in uncomfortable positions on round tube.

Basically, for those looking to learn. The best way to get good is weld, Weld, Weld. And do so in as many different positions as possible.
 

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skyline247 said:
Great thread. I eventually want to learn how to weld as well so I'm soaking up this advice along with you.

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I'm right there with you.
 
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I'm thinking of something like these two. I'd rather just go with a 230V welder. I'll have to run a new outlet, but that's not a big deal.

http://www.lincolnelectric.com/en-us/Equipment/Pages/product.aspx?product=K2473-2(LincolnElectric)

https://www.hobartwelders.com/products/wirefeed/handler190/
 

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so with the welders we have here

whats everyones thoughts on a gaslens?
 
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