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Rootus

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310 rwhp, 336 rwtq. My original goal for the motor was 300, so now I think it's time to start with the suspension mods...

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It was worth hanging around for.

 

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Why is your torque curve like that? I mean mine is usually.... Never mind.

 

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jordanvraptor said:

Why is your torque curve like that? I mean mine is usually.... Never mind.

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I don't like 'em flat. My torque curve has boobies...



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HairyCanary said:

My torque curve has boobies...

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And I have touched, massaged, and fondled those boobies so as to make them as perky and buxom as possible.

 

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Visceral said:

And I have touched, massaged, and fondled those boobies so as to make them as perky and buxom as possible.

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Dave

 

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Visceral said:

And I have touched, massaged, and fondled those boobies so as to make them as perky and buxom as possible.

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Sweet man, I guess that tuning really helped out. When I talk to you last week you seamed kinda bumped about you HP numbers. Good job

 

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Hotrodsun said:

Sweet man, I guess that tuning really helped out. When I talk to you last week you seamed kinda bumped about you HP numbers. Good job

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Yeah, I was pretty annoyed for sure. One of the changes I made seems to have done the trick, it picked up 25 ft-lbs of torque for most of the curve. I'm betting on injector timing. Amazing what a difference that one change made in SOTP feel -- and I picked up several MPG as well, which is nice.

Did you get the exhaust installed yet?

Dave

 

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Nice numbers pops............

 

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Ya, I did it the next day, I have to readjust it. It rattles when I go over a hard bump, but other the that it sounds much faster (but it isn't).

 

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Hotrodsun said:

Ya, I did it the next day, I have to readjust it. It rattles when I go over a hard bump, but other the that it sounds much faster (but it isn't).

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Do you already know where it's hitting? If not -- check clearance to the subframe where the pipes go over the axle, that's usually where I would have problems. Easy to adjust.

Dave

 

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That seems more like it..

 

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HairyCanary said:

Yeah, I was pretty annoyed for sure. One of the changes I made seems to have done the trick, it picked up 25 ft-lbs of torque for most of the curve. I'm betting on injector timing. Amazing what a difference that one change made in SOTP feel -- and I picked up several MPG as well, which is nice.

Dave

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I am going to Torque Freaks on the 8th since I am coming over the mountains for the Shelby open track day on the 9th.

Dave,
Would you mind telling what trick did you do to get 25 ft-lbs of torque and how did you increase your MPG? Do you do your own Tweecing?

Craig

 

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GT_4_FUN said:

Would you mind telling what trick did you do to get 25 ft-lbs of torque and how did you increase your MPG? Do you do your own Tweecing?

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What made the biggest difference for me was changing the injector timing. Stock is 300*, which is 88* before the exhaust valve closes fully with my current cam. So a significant amount of fuel was getting sucked straight out the exhaust.. To solve this I adjusted the injector timing to fire the injectors right at the instant the valve fully closes.

I do all of my own tweecing, but I keep track of the TwEECer forums and mailing list to keep up to date and learn new things. I also use Chris (Visceral) as a resource, since he's forgotten more about engines & drag racing than I'll ever know.

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I have read a little recently about injector timing. I wonder if that would make a larger difference in boosted conditions so raw fuel isn't forced out the exhaust. I will need to see where my Crane 2031 exhaust valve closes.

I have been concentration on getting my injectors tuned and my spark tables. I think I have them close.

Thanks for the tip.

Craig

 

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Have you tried EEC Analyzer? IMHO, worth every penny ($48). Very useful for helping you learn things from all those megabytes of datalogging .

Dave

 

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I haven't used the EEC Analyzer yet. I have been using an Excel Macro from Walt Barnes to do all my injector slope and offset tuning. I think the EEC Analyzer uses the same principle to calculate new injector slopes by graphing KRAMF VS PW.

Craig

 

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Hey Dave,

Did you graph the wideband results versus your logged a/f target, taking into account the kamrf? I would be interested to see the results of a comparrison between the two with a sidebar of pulse width and maf lbs/hr.
So you set up for start pulse timing? Is that normal on the 94/5 strategy?
Glad to hear you got that missing 20 horses found...

Dave-