What parts to take off car to pass smog in CA?

[blackcobra]

Here is my combo:

306 10:5:1 comp
Cobra U/L intake
E-303 cam
Edelbrock 6037 heads
BBK longtubes, off road H-pipe, 2ch flows
BBK CAI
30 lb injectors and matching mass air.
Adjustable FPR,255 intank fuel pump

I have to got to a Test only smog shop, I live in San Jose CA. if anyone has a hook up let me know.

 

[89MustangGX]

If all they're going to do is put the sniffer on it, all you need is some cats and you'll pass with flying colors.

 

[IMPORTSMOKER]

If all they're going to do is put the sniffer on it, all you need is some cats and you'll pass with flying colors.

ummmmm. no. he will most definatly fail the California visual with those long tubes....

 

[Sicarius428]

The long tubes and no cat will definately not let you pass the visual. I would start there. You will need some cats definately too to pass the sniffer.
Kevin

 

[91lxvert]

test only is bad, he will look at everything, make sure you have carb stickers for all aftermaket parts, he will be able to tell if there is a cam in it so have the sticker for it,
you need either a carb certified h-pipe or 4 cats on a stock one

long tubes are instant fail so is no cats, and if you fail test only, you have to go back to test only and smog it every year for 5 years :{

 

[89MustangGX]

ummmmm. no. he will most definatly fail the California visual with those long tubes....

Hi. Welcome to StangNet. Please go back and reread my post. I've never seen a sniffer that looks for cats or CARB numbers or anything else for that matter. If someone looks for that stuff, then that's not just putting a sniffer on it, like I said in my post. If you happen to know that the shop he's going to will look for that stuff, then so be it -- but don't try to flame me, because I actually provided some useful input on passing an emissions test.

 

[TheFleshRocket]

Along the same lines.. is the F-cam emissions legal?

What about shorties?

And what's the deal with CARB stickers? If the parts in my car are CARB approved (I know what that means, at least), how do I go about proving that to the test facility?

How do I go about finding out if the parts in my car are CARB approved?

I live in a non-emissions-controlled part of IL but would am considering moving to SoCal and wanna know what I'll be getting myself into. Thanks!

 

[Sicarius428]

Shorties are legal as long as they come with a carb number and the F cam is not legal but people pass with them fairly easily from what I hear. California emmisions tests are pretty strict as to what you can and cant put in the car. If you can get a hook up by all means use it but the state government is using undercover cars now to test smog stations to see if they will cheat it and yank their licences. It is a fat fine besides loosing your smog license so you will understand why they go through your car throughly for their own sake. That is why its hard to find a place that will "help" you pass.
Kevin

 

[The Bob]

how do I go about proving that to the test facility?

How do I go about finding out if the parts in my car are CARB approved?[/quote

Each part should have an EO (executive order) number (eg: D-216-8 for TFS heads). You can look parts up by manufacturer at http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/devices/amquery.php. Why would you possibly want to move to the state of the smog nazis, anyway. My '84 has been off the road for 5 years 'cause of them!

 

[blackcobra]

Here is what I plan on taking off to try on passing smog, what do you think?

BBK CAI
Longtubes
Off road H-pipe
NOS 150 shot

I will replace these parts with stock parts.

Now do you think if I take EO#'s for the intake, heads, cam and heads I should be OK?

What about my 30lb injectors?

Thanks

 

[v8only]

Here is my combo:

306 10:5:1 comp
Cobra U/L intake
E-303 cam
Edelbrock 6037 heads
BBK longtubes, off road H-pipe, 2ch flows
BBK CAI
30 lb injectors and matching mass air.
Adjustable FPR,255 intank fuel pump

I have to got to a Test only smog shop, I live in San Jose CA. if anyone has a hook up let me know.

go to the shop of your choosing. Often you can pay for a "pre inspection" which won't get counted as real, and they'll tell you if you're gonna pass or fail. I'd replace the long tubes and cats, and choose a shop and go in for a pre inspection, then see what the tech will allow, and what he won't, then come back and do the real thing.

 

[jwcma]

Here is what I plan on taking off to try on passing smog, what do you think?

BBK CAI
Longtubes
Off road H-pipe
NOS 150 shot

I will replace these parts with stock parts.

Now do you think if I take EO#'s for the intake, heads, cam and heads I should be OK?

What about my 30lb injectors?

Thanks

That's a good start. The off road pipe is the most noticeable item. Your afpr might also fail visual. It really depends on the tech. Some know and recognize non-stock parts more than others. Some are more lenient on the visual than others. If your maf isn't shiny chrome, the tech might not recognize it as an offending part.

I would get it as smog ready as possible, and then go for a pre-test (as V8only recommended). If the tech is a d1ck on the visual but you pass the sniffer, just take your car and business down the street.

 

[TheFleshRocket]

Each part should have an EO (executive order) number (eg: D-216-8 for TFS heads). You can look parts up by manufacturer at http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/devices/amquery.php. Why would you possibly want to move to the state of the smog nazis, anyway. My '84 has been off the road for 5 years 'cause of them!

Thanks for the link.. I'll go looking for the EO numbers on my parts.

I have buddies in SoCal, I love the nice year-round weather there, and I'm a bike guy and there's some great riding out there. Plus it would be a big improvement over southern Illinois.

 

[SmockDoiley]

Sorry 89MustangGX, but you are way wrong. It shows in the fact that you DONT live in California. All aftermarket parts need carb stickers. If not, you fail. You may get away with the cam if the guy isnt that good, but I believe the cam is 50 state legal so if you get the sticker you should be ok. Your going to need 4 cats for sure. My friend had a MAC 2 cat h-pipe and he still failed visual. So he went back with a friends stock 4 cat H-pipe and passed the sniffer but he still almost failed visual. The headers he had had the carb plate on them but they were for 87-93, not for his 94, but the guy was cool and new it was the same part and so he passed him. He also gigged him on having his PVC disconnected on the intake, but he just plugged it back in for him. California smog doesnt mess around. You should be fine with the injectors, pump, FPR and mass air because they arent going to spot them, but the obvious stuff like CAI, heads, and exhaust will either need to be removed or have CARB numbers for them. Your heads are 50 state legal though so again, have your sticker, its suppose to be on the product. Good luck.

 

[v8only]

The cats are a debateable subject. 2 catted h pipes ARE allowed, and are smog legal. Some shops are uptight about that and will not pass you for some reason. move on to a shop that knows they are ok and legal.

 

[89MustangGX]

Sorry 89MustangGX, but you are way wrong. It shows in the fact that you DONT live in California.

SmockDoiley, whether I live in CA or on the Moon, I still stand by my statement. I don't know the exact procedures for each state or county or country for that matter -- that's why I prefaced my original statement the way I did.

If you put a set of cats on that combo and put it on a sniffer, it will pass -- plain and simple. I didn't address anything else, as like I said, I don't know the specifics of all the different places that may require different tests. That's why I only addressed the sniffer -- nothing else.

If you want to read more into what I said than what I meant -- your choice. However, you're 100% wrong in doing so, and I'd hope you wouldn't want to do that.

BTW -- This is now the second time I've addressed this in this thread.

 

[RydeOn]

its not that big of a deal. all the guy has to do is put his stock h pipe on and retard the timming to stock. ive been to test only and they are very lenient. it was some asain guy who didnt even care that i had no muffs on, lol. as long as all the stock smog equipment is there, they dont give a damn what parts are on the car. if they ask u if you have a cam all you have to say is the word "no". passing smog is a breeze, at least in my expericences.

 

[Rerun]

I just passed smog with flying colors, dunno how

 

[65ShelbyClone]

if you get the sticker you should be ok.

That doesnt guarantee anything. You can get a sticker for a legal part and put it on an illegal one and the techs know that. The EO number has to be permanently affixed to the part in question, like a welded or riveted tag or engraving/stamping.

The CAI, longtubes, and O/R h-pipe are the most obvious parts to replace. The Cobra intake is a gray area part. It is in fact a direct replacement part, but only if you have a '93 Cobra. You may get hassled and you may not. You should hide or paint your AFPR, MAF, and remove or hide your underhood nitrous parts. Make sure they can see the EO number on the end of at least one cylinder head.