what to do wif my notch?

stykthyn · Mar 11, 2011

I've seen one, it was built out of a volvo turbo and other jy parts. It was ugly as sin and once it went over 300hp rods started to give out.

FoxGT87 · Mar 11, 2011

i forget what site i saw the video on but some dude boosted a 3.8 with a HUGE turbo and was putting down some serious power. maybe he was stroked with forged internals idk...

tannerc91gt · Mar 11, 2011

Theres a yellow TT v6 sn95 at my track. Puts the car up on the back bumper every once in a while

on a side note, id rather eat glass than build a v6

NIKwoaC · Mar 11, 2011

tannerc91gt said:
on a side note, id rather eat glass than build a v6

Even one that drags the bumper?

Where do I sign up to NOT eat glass?

1987LXragtop · Mar 11, 2011

although this is a 4.2

YouTube - Roadhawg2's Channel

NIKwoaC · Mar 11, 2011

A PD blower would make it feel like a V8, too. Hell, it'd feel like a V10.

TokyoJoe · Mar 11, 2011

Why couldnt you put a 351 under a stock hood? Been done plenty of times. Turbo 351w 6-700 on pump all day long. Less than a $10k build if researched correctly...maybe a little more since you are starting with a 4banger tho

Mr. Rustypwnz · Mar 14, 2011

If I were to go with a 351 (which im leaning too) I want a vic. jr with an elbow on it, and that can tend to get tall, like my 2v 4.6 lol. I wont buy anything for a couple months to see if I can get a coyote motor from a yard.

Ive never really "built" a 351, but how strong are the rods and pistons?

2000xp8 · Mar 14, 2011

The 2v modular engine is worthless the way it sits. Needs a built shortblock and a supercharger which puts the money over the 10k price range.
I see all these 4.6 2v cars at my buddies shop and can't help think that the owners are nuts spending 15 grand on a car worth 8k.

The coyote is nice as sits, but requires some custom work. Did anyone ever make off the shelf headers for it yet?
Also to get big numbers, you need a power adder, add 6 grand to the cost for that.

When i did mine, there was only one real choice, and i still feel it's that way.
03/04 cobra engine, i didn't even consider any other modular engine.

And tokyo, if you think you can build a 600-700rwhp turbo 351 for 10 grand, you may want to re-check those numbers.
You will be in over 5 grand just for the long block.
2 grand in the fuel system
And god only knows what the turbo setup is going to cost by the time it's done.
Then you still have ignition, intake, exhaust, and a transmission to buy.
On top of that you need to convert the car to an 8 cyl setup.
I bet by the time it's over that number is more like 20 grand.

Notchbck93 · Mar 15, 2011

2000xp8 said:
I bet by the time it's over that number is more like 20 grand.

^^^THIS!

I've got over ten years into building mine and around that invested.

IF you want cheap, it's a ticking time bomb.

If you want it to last ten years, drive like a stock car and still run low 11's or greater on the street, you'll be spending some serious coin. Anyone who tells you otherwise, doesn't understand what Fox-Rod means.

Sure you could build a carb'd 408 with a 300 shot progressive set up, but you'll be lucky to get 40% back out of it, if you ever had to sell it or simply got tired of it rattling you to death.

Or you could go buy a Hayabusa and run 9's stock for 6500.

Mr. Rustypwnz · Mar 15, 2011

2000xp8 said:
The 2v modular engine is worthless the way it sits. Needs a built shortblock and a supercharger which puts the money over the 10k price range.
I see all these 4.6 2v cars at my buddies shop and can't help think that the owners are nuts spending 15 grand on a car worth 8k.

The coyote is nice as sits, but requires some custom work. Did anyone ever make off the shelf headers for it yet?
Also to get big numbers, you need a power adder, add 6 grand to the cost for that.

When i did mine, there was only one real choice, and i still feel it's that way.
03/04 cobra engine, i didn't even consider any other modular engine.

And tokyo, if you think you can build a 600-700rwhp turbo 351 for 10 grand, you may want to re-check those numbers.
You will be in over 5 grand just for the long block.
2 grand in the fuel system
And god only knows what the turbo setup is going to cost by the time it's done.
Then you still have ignition, intake, exhaust, and a transmission to buy.
On top of that you need to convert the car to an 8 cyl setup.
I bet by the time it's over that number is more like 20 grand.

you can get a 2v into the 11's really cheap, only say that because ive done it. and as for reliability it still runs every day, wont let me down.

I think 03-04 motors are over rated, I mean they at least could have put a aluminum block in the thing.

nothing custom is needed other than the little **** here and there like every other build, 412 n/a stock, or 390 s/c stock, I think ill take the coyote, especially they are making well over 500whp n/a with reground cams, 302 intake and a valve job. it takes ported blower, and all kinds of bolt-ons to do that on a termi. I know the whole terminator discussion can go all day long.

Boosted92LX · Mar 15, 2011

2000xp8 said:
The 2v modular engine is worthless the way it sits. Needs a built shortblock and a supercharger which puts the money over the 10k price range.
I see all these 4.6 2v cars at my buddies shop and can't help think that the owners are nuts spending 15 grand on a car worth 8k.

The coyote is nice as sits, but requires some custom work. Did anyone ever make off the shelf headers for it yet?
Also to get big numbers, you need a power adder, add 6 grand to the cost for that.

When i did mine, there was only one real choice, and i still feel it's that way.
03/04 cobra engine, i didn't even consider any other modular engine.

And tokyo, if you think you can build a 600-700rwhp turbo 351 for 10 grand, you may want to re-check those numbers.
You will be in over 5 grand just for the long block.
2 grand in the fuel system
And god only knows what the turbo setup is going to cost by the time it's done.
Then you still have ignition, intake, exhaust, and a transmission to buy.
On top of that you need to convert the car to an 8 cyl setup.
I bet by the time it's over that number is more like 20 grand.

how much did you have to pay for the cobra engine?

2000xp8 · Mar 15, 2011

SSeater said:
how much did you have to pay for the cobra engine?

It's hard to say, since there was some extra parts with it and there was parts missing.
I'd guess the vicinity of $6000.

Rusty, i think you need a reality check on modular swaps and modular engines.

The 2v engine is only reliable up to about 400rwhp. To get to that number you need an expensive supercharger, and when the supercharger destroys the engine, now you need a more expensive shortblock.

The coyote, as good as it is, isn't seeing 500rwhp very easily or cheaply.
Did you actually see what just the cams cost? Have you had a modular engine apart and know what it costs to put it back together? Things like head bolts are $200 alone, that's without gaskets.
Headwork? Forget it, you could buy a pushrod set of aluminum heads for what just the labor is to work on a modular head.
Literally, it's thousands of dollars

Did you actually look at the stangnet project car parts list?
There's like 15 grand worth of stuff in the just the drivetrain portion.

As for as the terminator engine being overrated.
If by overrated you mean you need a $100 pulley and $250 mass air meter to make 480rwhp without any other mods on a shortblock that is reliable up to 600rwhp without cracking the seal on the valve cover, ya then i guess it's over rated.

red-fox · Mar 15, 2011

Notchbck93;8400227Or you could go buy a Hayabusa and run 9's stock for 6500.[/QUOTE said:
^ I like that! throw in a extended swing arm and a turbo and get into the low 8's for around $10,000 give or take a bit and you can still drive it all day long.

krisx125 · Mar 15, 2011

Let me know when you figure out what to do "wif" your notch! Ive got a 86 4banger with 40k on it...And i dunno what to do wif

Boosted92LX · Mar 15, 2011

I still think bang for the buck is the stroked windsor. You can build one that'll run on pump gas and give the termi a run for it's money, and still be dependable. You don't have to boost or spray or go with stupid compression to make power when you've got cubes.

This guy's got a 10:1 cr 408 and runs 10.80's on just the motor. he also makes 3 hour road trips with it.

YouTube - 20100102001647.mpg

YouTube - mustang vs camaro

YouTube - mustang wheelie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K3u8MyoqpA

1987LXragtop · Mar 16, 2011

how many times does he stop for gas?

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