• Mustang Forums
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-

Whats wrong with 4-Lugs??

  • Thread starter Thread starter loadchris
  • Start date Start date Feb 12, 2007
Prev
  • 1
  • 2
First Prev 2 of 2

iLkYsPoNy

if she's a tranny then... well I'd do her.... it..
Aug 8, 2006
60
0
6
Sandusky, Ohio ( Cedar Point - America's Rockin' R
Feb 13, 2007
#21
  • Feb 13, 2007
  • #21
Here's a good example.... check out the recent issue of Muscle Mustangs and take note of an article named "Oh, Deere". That guy , Matt Parker, is from my area. He has a mid 9's (1/4 mile) Mustang and still runs 4 lug without an issue. Never broke a wheel, never broke anything resulting from a 4 lug setup. I've seen him go through numerous engines, transmissions, etc. so there is no lack of power. Needless to say, there's nothing wrong with a 4 lug setup.
 

gcwh02

New Member
Jun 20, 2005
515
0
0
pottstown, PA
Feb 13, 2007
#22
  • Feb 13, 2007
  • #22
91FoxSaleenGTLX said:
5 lug has alot more structure support. Its got a extra lug. Also if you do a five lug conv. you have the chance to upgrade to 31 spline axles. They will be able to handle all that torque. And also the looks and braking power will be better cause you get get big brakes. I got 13 cobras on front and i love them. THey look sweet through my rim and have very good stopping power.
Click to expand...

you can get 31 spline axles in 4 lug
 

2000xp8

SN Certified Technician
Aug 8, 2003
8,017
1,614
194
NJ
Feb 13, 2007
#23
  • Feb 13, 2007
  • #23
Just because someone has 4 lug, doesn't mean they have stock 4 lug studs either.
And on the same note, my friend who runs drag radial, broke a 4 lug cold hardened studs in a race, in a 9 second car (5 years ago), and trashed a $50,000 race car on the wall.

Nothing wrong with 4 lugs from a mechanical standpoint on a mildly modded car. You may want to rethink stock 4 lugs on anything that makes 350rwhp+.
Anyone remember 5literJoe (or one of his other dozen usernames, silver to black fade car), his car made 500rwhp and he used regular street tires and broke all the lugs off one side, on the street.
 

Dean85GT

New Member
Nov 27, 2004
502
1
0
Thorold, Ontario, Canada
Feb 13, 2007
#24
  • Feb 13, 2007
  • #24
2000xp8 said:
Just because someone has 4 lug, doesn't mean they have stock 4 lug studs either.
And on the same note, my friend who runs drag radial, broke a 4 lug cold hardened studs in a race, in a 9 second car (5 years ago), and trashed a $50,000 race car on the wall.

Nothing wrong with 4 lugs from a mechanical standpoint on a mildly modded car. You may want to rethink stock 4 lugs on anything that makes 350rwhp+.
Anyone remember 5literJoe (or one of his other dozen usernames, silver to black fade car), his car made 500rwhp and he used regular street tires and broke all the lugs off one side, on the street.
Click to expand...


he also had wheel spacers on the back
 

25thmustang

Mustang Master
Sep 5, 2003
2,021
85
99
Montgomery, NY
Feb 13, 2007
#25
  • Feb 13, 2007
  • #25
Yes and wheel spacers will move the wheel out enough to put 100% of the cars weight on the studs... I wish there was a way to verify that had he had 5 lug wheels and axles it wouldnt have done what it did, but we will never know!
 

2000xp8

SN Certified Technician
Aug 8, 2003
8,017
1,614
194
NJ
Feb 13, 2007
#26
  • Feb 13, 2007
  • #26
I ran the same spacers on my car for almost it's entire life. 1/2 the time with fms 5 lug axles, and the other half with moser 31 spline axles, with hardened studs.
I don't use the spacers anymore, but i can't say i would be afraid of them either, they put up with some hard driving.

The studs breaking from spacers may be one for the mythbusters to tackle.
 

santos

Founding Member
Dec 11, 1999
362
19
39
Camp Hill, PA
Feb 15, 2007
#27
  • Feb 15, 2007
  • #27
i like my 4 lugs
 

S&B

I hate my CT. :(
10 Year Member
Dec 18, 2005
1,634
695
204
Cheesehead
Feb 15, 2007
#28
  • Feb 15, 2007
  • #28
4 lugs 800 ponies no problems.

going 5 lug they look better, more brake selection, and no matter what they are stronger. B/c 5 is better than 4 well except the SRT-4 OF COURSE
 

Metalcop

Active Member
Jun 6, 2004
148
1
28
New Hampshire
Feb 16, 2007
#29
  • Feb 16, 2007
  • #29
This all started with the SVO. It was/is an upgrade from standard. No doubt the 5 lugs are stronger as evidenced by the entire car industry and racers. Enter Steve Saleen, who crashed a car, due to a wheel breaking off from a 4 lug setup. So he started converting all of his cars to 5 lug. Ford Racing then upgraded the Cobra R with the 5 lug setup and began selling the M2300K upgrade package. Then a year later, they were standard on 94 Mustangs, even the 6 cylinder secretary cars! There was a guy who frequented this board who broke a wheel, running a 4 lug setup with a 400+ rwhp car, so don't say that they never break -- they do! This should be one of the first, if not the first upgrade to your foxbody, along with 4 wheel discs. Everybody tends to do their upgrades in exact reverse order, being: power 1st, then handling 2nd, then safety dead last, pun intended. Look at Ford trucks for a simple comparison, F150's have 6 lugs, then the super dutys have 8 and even 10 lugs, it is simple physics, more 'fasteners' means added strength.


ps. My upgrades went in this order; handling, then power, then the brake/wheel upgrade. So I'm guilty of the hp addiction, too, lol!
 

mustangillusion

Founding Member
Jun 24, 2001
74
0
0
Oklahoma
Feb 16, 2007
#30
  • Feb 16, 2007
  • #30
loadchris said:
Besides a better variety of rims?? I was thinking about getting this conversion done but I have no problem with the 4-lug rims I have on there. As far as structure goes....is it better to have 5-lug?? I would rather spend my money elsewhere on the car.....conversion+new rims=more money for s/c or nitrous. What are your opinions? Plus 4 lug rims are really cheap.
Click to expand...

Its stock thats whats wrong with it. Can I get a AMEN?
 

mattmcdan

Member
Apr 19, 2006
176
0
19
Okeechobee, Florida
Feb 16, 2007
#31
  • Feb 16, 2007
  • #31




I like my 4 lugs too =]
 

ExplodingGopher

New Member
Jun 11, 2004
517
0
0
The mistake on the lake (Ohio)
Feb 16, 2007
#32
  • Feb 16, 2007
  • #32
funny, behind my big block, the 4 lugs have held up with the draglites for 3 summers now, and thats a **** load of torque, although traction is another problem. I don't plan on 5 lugs anytime soon.
 

JGT

Member
Oct 29, 2006
0
0
7
Charleston, SC
Feb 17, 2007
#33
  • Feb 17, 2007
  • #33

how many lugs?
 

90mustangGT

I felt sorry for girls because
Founding Member
Jan 15, 2002
2,773
17
89
Dallas, GA
Feb 17, 2007
#34
  • Feb 17, 2007
  • #34
JGT said:

how many lugs?
Click to expand...

I don't know, it doesn't matter because that is so 1997. Welcome to 2007.
 

JGT

Member
Oct 29, 2006
0
0
7
Charleston, SC
Feb 17, 2007
#35
  • Feb 17, 2007
  • #35
90mustangGT said:
I don't know, it doesn't matter because that is so 1997. Welcome to 2007.
Click to expand...


i dont get it. i think they look better than the stock wheels though
 

Strype

Cuthbert catcher
Founding Member
May 11, 1999
61
34
104
Huntsvegas, AL
Feb 17, 2007
#36
  • Feb 17, 2007
  • #36
Caution:

Be careful who you listen to on here. Some of those like 25th and S&B and TunedIn know what they're talking about...

Some just want a nicer/newere or ricer set of wheels on a near classic mustang or a set of disc brakes on the rear which is fine... But then there are some who say how many problems there are with 4 lug, how many wheel choices come with 5 lug, how much better it looks with 5 lug... Those are usually the guys who haven't been into it very long or are just misguided
Just food for thought
 

carbed87

Member
Jun 5, 2005
215
0
16
Feb 17, 2007
#37
  • Feb 17, 2007
  • #37
91FoxSaleenGTLX said:
5 lug has alot more structure support. Its got a extra lug. Also if you do a five lug conv. you have the chance to upgrade to 31 spline axles. They will be able to handle all that torque. And also the looks and braking power will be better cause you get get big brakes. I got 13 cobras on front and i love them. THey look sweet through my rim and have very good stopping power.
Click to expand...

they make 31 spline 4-lug axles
 

6T9BOSS

New Member
Apr 14, 2017
2
1
1
Apr 14, 2017
#38
  • Apr 14, 2017
  • #38
Wifes 84' LX since high school bought new. 51x 8.5 Prime 5spokes..popular back in the day... first new set of wheels I ever bought.
 

Attachments

  • IMG_0408-2.webp
    134.2 KB · Views: 198
Reactions: Revogen

deathb4dismount

Crap, didn’t realize my crotch was in that picture
15 Year Member
Oct 6, 2011
1,031
502
164
THE BUCKET
Apr 14, 2017
#39
  • Apr 14, 2017
  • #39
Wow, a 10 year old thread. Car looks good with those wheels though.
 
Reactions: Fordfreak93

CarMichael Angelo

my rearend will smell so minty fresh,
15 Year Member
Nov 29, 1999
10,641
8,909
234
Birmingham, al
Apr 14, 2017
#40
  • Apr 14, 2017
  • #40
Whats wrong w/ 4 lugs?......They're missing one?
 
Reactions: General karthief
Prev
  • 1
  • 2
First Prev 2 of 2
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

8
87 lx 4cyl to v8 project 4 lug disc conversion questions
  • 87lx428
  • Mar 24, 2026
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
Replies
2
Views
489
1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- Mar 25, 2026
87lx428
8
O
SOLD FS: 18" FR500 chrome wheels and Toyo tires
  • optionizerSS
  • May 21, 2026
  • Other Classifieds
Replies
1
Views
84
Other Classifieds Jun 2, 2026
optionizerSS
O
B
water pump installation questions
  • B0udreaux
  • Feb 5, 2026
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
  • 2
Replies
38
Views
2K
1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- Feb 28, 2026
General karthief
Progress Thread 87 T-top slow progress
  • wobbyguy
  • Feb 2, 2025
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
Replies
13
Views
718
1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- Feb 10, 2025
nickyb
Wheels-Tires LS mii swap and rear rim size/axle questions....
  • 78mIIman
  • Feb 2, 2025
  • 1974 - 1978 Mustang II Talk & Tech
Replies
6
Views
711
1974 - 1978 Mustang II Talk & Tech May 6, 2025
78 Mach1
Share:
Bluesky Email Share Link
  • Mustang Forums
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
Menu
Log in

Register

  • Forums
  • What's new
  • Media
  • Resources
  • Contact
  • Sponsor
X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?

X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?