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Which Saginaw pump?

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Cupid

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Hello all,

I'm swapping over to the Borgeson set up. I bought the Borgeson pump kit. They only sell the Windsor kits (No bracket for the cleveland). Well I found one and with minor modifications, fitted it to my cleveland. Here's the problem: The Borgeson pump return line sticks directly out the back of the pump. I can't get a hose on it without contacting my heads. I know they make Saginaw pumps that have return lines that curve out the back. Does anybody have a part number or application that so I can pick one up from the local parts store.

My only reservation about buying from another application is I don't know if Borgeson does something special to their pumps that makes them work better with their gearboxes. Anybody?
 

Hwyman

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I don't know about other pumps, but the return tube used to curve straight down out of the Borgeson pump. It was a huge pain to get the line on. I know some guys removed the tube and had it brazed back in pointing up. Maybe you can get a tube shaped like you want it brazed in without having to buy another expensive pump.
 
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TT670

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The nipple on my pump sticks straight out too, Im told the early Borgeson kits did have them bent. Ive got some pretty extensive GM experience and I recall most all of the pumps had bent return nipples, Id think an F or G body pump from the 70's/80's would work just fine for you. Or try calling Borgeson, explain your situation and see if they have one to exchange.
 

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^Thanks TT. I tried calling Borgeson. They did say they used to have one that bent slightly, but all of theirs currently ship with a straight tube. I told them, that it would not work for the small mustangs with larger engines(cleveland/windsor). Hopefully they take the message to heart. I'll send them a pic to reinforce this.

I was thinking about just sending the pump back and buying one for another application, but again, I don't know about valving. Would hate to end up with too little or too much pressure. I picked up a 3/8" brass elbow from Home Depot. I'm going to try that out first.
 
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Cupid said:
Hello all,

I'm swapping over to the Borgeson set up. I bought the Borgeson pump kit. They only sell the Windsor kits (No bracket for the cleveland). Well I found one and with minor modifications, fitted it to my cleveland. Here's the problem: The Borgeson pump return line sticks directly out the back of the pump. I can't get a hose on it without contacting my heads. I know they make Saginaw pumps that have return lines that curve out the back. Does anybody have a part number or application that so I can pick one up from the local parts store.

My only reservation about buying from another application is I don't know if Borgeson does something special to their pumps that makes them work better with their gearboxes. Anybody?
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Back in 1987 when I needed a new hose for my 71, 351c car I used a Granada
hose and carefully slightly bent it to fit. I couldn't find the Mustang one back then. Hope this helps. It is still on thier now,
 

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Do you have any pics of your setup?
 
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