Most s-197 owners are modding their cars strictly so the new Camaro doesn't blow it's doors off. I assume the z28 will have a 6 litre LS2? which is their 400 hp engine. 100 more hp than our s-197. The s-197 is obviously capable of going 400hp and beyond with mods. So who all on here is doing it to blow the doors off the new Slowmaro.
Who's moddin up for the '09 slowmaro
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SpartaPerformance
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I'm not worried.....the new Junkmaro is going to be built on the same crappy a$$ platform that the GTO was on. Now GM did an excellent job with it turning into the Pontiac G8, however as a Buttmaro its crap...why?? Because it still wight 3,900 lbs so even at 400HP it still only gonna run high to mid 13's well so will the new 09 Mustang at 345hp and so do our cars with a cold air intake and tune. 
psfracer
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I am ready, but I didn't do it only for the Camaro, I am ready for the Challenger to.
Actually I am glad these are coming out, will make things a little more interesting at the track.
Actually I am glad these are coming out, will make things a little more interesting at the track.
lolwho cares?
I hear that there's already a move inside GM to kill off the Camaro as quickly as possible, anyway that they can.
Either way, its just another limited production vehicle (read: gimmick) that will inevitably leave the bow-tie faithful weeping into their pillows at night ....
Emay
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None of my aftermarket adds are for any specific car none the less the Camaro. I've done everything to date for my own personal enjoyment. It just so happens to keep me quicker than numerous others..
As long as I can get in the car and produce a big ole smile each and every time i drive, nothing else matters..
Being dogged by a camaro wouldn't bother me much at all..
As long as I can get in the car and produce a big ole smile each and every time i drive, nothing else matters..
Being dogged by a camaro wouldn't bother me much at all..
red05bullitgt
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Neither the Camaro, nor the re-designed Mustang..will arrive until the 2010 model year. in mid/late 09..
SpartaPerformance
10 Year Member
you guys are guessing too low. the LS2 won't be in production anymore.
lots of denial in here.
What do you mean? GM guys will be lucky if the Camaro actually makes it to full production, I'm actually surprised GM isn't bankrupt it can barely pay its debts let alone its expenses. Anyway 2010 will answer the question.
you do know fords worse off? plus works underway right now. theres some in the plant as we speak.What do you mean? GM guys will be lucky if the Camaro actually makes it to full production, I'm actually surprised GM isn't bankrupt it can barely pay its debts let alone its expenses. Anyway 2010 will answer the question.
I love my Mustang the way it is. I don't know why it has taken GM so long to get the Camaro in production. I believe some pony wars could lower prices.
All the manufacturers are in trouble. The reasons why have been debated to death. More power is not the answer. The Mustang has survived because of the V6. That has also been discussed to death. I have owned V6s and V8s. Currently I have a V8 that is essentially stock.
That won't change because of the Camaro. I love Mustangs. Always have. Always will. No Camaro will change that.
All the manufacturers are in trouble. The reasons why have been debated to death. More power is not the answer. The Mustang has survived because of the V6. That has also been discussed to death. I have owned V6s and V8s. Currently I have a V8 that is essentially stock.
That won't change because of the Camaro. I love Mustangs. Always have. Always will. No Camaro will change that.
LV51FER
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There seems to be a lot of illogical bitterness and angst concerning the new Camaro from certain quarters. I've never really understood it. Maybe it was years of being blown into the weeds by LT1 and LS1 Camaros past, maybe it's cubic capacity envy, maybe it's a simmering resentment that it took Ford too long to come up with a faster car until GM had announced the retirement of the Camaro. Just because it sold better doesn't mean it was a better car, just a more commercial one.
This internecine conflict seems a bit pointless unless you're maybe 12. I love the new Camaro. Nobody knows what it will weigh so why speculate? What is clear is that they are indexing it directly against the Mustang in development tests so are clearly pitching it at the Mustang and I doubt they'll be handicapping it with a significant weight penalty. People also equate weight with sloth or hampered ability but cars like the Murcielago and Astons weigh more than the Mustang but, er, so what?
What we do know is that GM have a great choice of V8 engines. In the past they haven't liked to put the Camaro in direct conflict with the Vette but who knows, this time they may just gun for the Mustang and Shelby with a coup d'etat of monstrous proportion. They have the Corvette's 425hp LS3 and they've got the forthcoming blown LS9 with 620hp which they've got no excuse not to use given the advent of the GT500KR. Of course, that would be lighter than the GT500 because it uses an alloy engine...
The Challenger was always going to be heavy as it was a cost-driven car based on the 300. The Hemi tries to offset that disadvantage but it's all they've got.
So I welcome the Camaro. If it does nothing else, it will sting Ford into producing better and faster Mustangs. If it has IRS, it will push Ford to develop one. It's the beauty of not having the market all to yourself, everyone benefits by competition.
Am I gearing up for it. No. If they produce a 425hp LS3 Camaro, I'm sure they could add a supercharger just like I did...
This internecine conflict seems a bit pointless unless you're maybe 12. I love the new Camaro. Nobody knows what it will weigh so why speculate? What is clear is that they are indexing it directly against the Mustang in development tests so are clearly pitching it at the Mustang and I doubt they'll be handicapping it with a significant weight penalty. People also equate weight with sloth or hampered ability but cars like the Murcielago and Astons weigh more than the Mustang but, er, so what?
What we do know is that GM have a great choice of V8 engines. In the past they haven't liked to put the Camaro in direct conflict with the Vette but who knows, this time they may just gun for the Mustang and Shelby with a coup d'etat of monstrous proportion. They have the Corvette's 425hp LS3 and they've got the forthcoming blown LS9 with 620hp which they've got no excuse not to use given the advent of the GT500KR. Of course, that would be lighter than the GT500 because it uses an alloy engine...
The Challenger was always going to be heavy as it was a cost-driven car based on the 300. The Hemi tries to offset that disadvantage but it's all they've got.
So I welcome the Camaro. If it does nothing else, it will sting Ford into producing better and faster Mustangs. If it has IRS, it will push Ford to develop one. It's the beauty of not having the market all to yourself, everyone benefits by competition.
Am I gearing up for it. No. If they produce a 425hp LS3 Camaro, I'm sure they could add a supercharger just like I did...
You hit the nail on the head.. I think, at least in my opinion, that i was tired of getting embarrased by LT'1's and LS'1s in the late 90's to early 2000's..S-197's made us respectable finally, just in time for Chevy to stop building the camaro...I think it is a pride thing..I dont want Camaros to be beating new Mustangs again like they used to..I personnaly will make sure that does not happen, when they are produced, if they are produced.I get that tingly feeling everytime i turn the key and start up my car..that wont change, no matter what Chevy does..But I at least want to bring a gun to a shoot out,and not a knife like before...
red05bullitgt
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I don't know where you've been lately, but Ford's been gradually showing signs of recovery..
As the 2007 Mustang, Mercury Milan, Lincoln MKZ, Mazda MX-5 Miata, and Lincoln Mark LT. are ranked highest for quality of design and quality of production.. by J.D Power and associates..
Ford also expects to be fully recovered by 2009..Hardly what I consider as being worse off !
mwhite29, so far the best...... well I really can't say Best, but I will say a set of "390" or "410s" will leave you grinnin from ear to ear. Only a 50 rpm diff bet the two. I went with the 410s cause I'm gonna run a 28-29 tall tire. 390s perfect for stock ht tires. That in conjunction with I'd say no more than a 125 shot with stock bottom end. That with what u got should leave them guessin. At least till they get modded out. Then I guess I"ll have to go further. Am already plannin. It is a viscious circle.
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