Michael Yount said:I suspect it's a lot like people that say they can tell this beer from that one, or Coke from Pepsi, or Smirnoff from Grey Goose vodka. When they're put in blind taste tests, they more often than not can't tell which one is the one they 'think' they like.
It would be interesting to blindfold someone and have them try to ID the engine type....I bet you'd be surprised at your own response.
blind fold me and put up a Hieniken,a Bud and a Corona and I'll nail itMichael Yount said:I suspect it's a lot like people that say they can tell this beer from that one, or Coke from Pepsi, or Smirnoff from Grey Goose vodka. When they're put in blind taste tests, they more often than not can't tell which one is the one they 'think' they like.
It would be interesting to blindfold someone and have them try to ID the engine type....I bet you'd be surprised at your own response.
Michael Yount said:According to what you just posted, 5.0L's with different mods will all sound slightly different -- so how can they have a distinctive sound? It would seem you've done a good job their at explaining why your original post doesn't make much sense.
Michael Yount said:"Each car company seems to have a unique starter sound"
Now that I'll buy -- especially the old Mopars whose starters always sounded to me like they were gonna come apart at any minute.....
well if your saying motors,especially fords dont have there own sound then you must have a hearing aid,,or are in need of one!!Michael Yount said:According to what you just posted, 5.0L's with different mods will all sound slightly different -- so how can they have a distinctive sound? It would seem you've done a good job their at explaining why your original post doesn't make much sense.
Well i've been into cars for a while too and I think there's a sound difference for sure. If you blind folded me and reved a 351 and a chevy 350 stock I would definatly know the difference and 5.0's have there own sound. I love my stang but I think some dodge v8's sound good. Chevy's suck!!Michael Yount said:Nope - hearing is in the 99th percentile according to my last physical. I was one of the few that actually used ear plugs when riding my cycle or racing cars.
I grew up in the muscle car era (driver's license in '69) and have been around/worked on/ridden in/driven more Chevy/Ford/Mopar/Oldsmobile/Buick V8's than I could count. If asked, I'd respond that I couldn't tell a Ford V8 from a Chevy V8 from a Mopar V8 from a Toyota V8 from a Porsche V8 by the sound they make. They're all 90 degree V8's with cranks that have successive throws with 90 degrees rotation between them -- they all sound similar. And I've seen the current stuff run at the track and on many dyno days -- blindfolded I don't think most folks could tell an LS1 from a 4.6L Ford from a 5.0L. Guy had a Porsche 928 4-cam/4 valve on the dyno a few months back -- sounded just like every other Chevy/Ford V8 that had run before it.
Now, get a Ferrari or Lotus V8 with a 180-degree 'flat' crank - and it sounds completely different. Yamaha/Ford/Volvo's 60-degree (angle) V8 sounds different too.
I understand you think you hear something distinctive. I don't. I believe you'd fail the blindfold test --- but we can't do anything but talk about it. So - enough said.
Michael Yount said:Nope - hearing is in the 99th percentile according to my last physical. I was one of the few that actually used ear plugs when riding my cycle or racing cars.
I grew up in the muscle car era (driver's license in '69) and have been around/worked on/ridden in/driven more Chevy/Ford/Mopar/Oldsmobile/Buick V8's than I could count. If asked, I'd respond that I couldn't tell a Ford V8 from a Chevy V8 from a Mopar V8 from a Toyota V8 from a Porsche V8 by the sound they make. They're all 90 degree V8's with cranks that have successive throws with 90 degrees rotation between them -- they all sound similar. And I've seen the current stuff run at the track and on many dyno days -- blindfolded I don't think most folks could tell an LS1 from a 4.6L Ford from a 5.0L. Guy had a Porsche 928 4-cam/4 valve on the dyno a few months back -- sounded just like every other Chevy/Ford V8 that had run before it.
Michael I value your input,and intelagence..Maybe youve been around too many carsBut given the example of 2 cars I had early on in this thread (65 Lemans,,74 G.T ,,stock motors) if they were lined up and one at a time would give it one rev,with me blind folded,theres not a doupt in my mind I could tell them apart...Again,,Im talking stock motors here..
Its been a longgggggggggg time before I could say this,,but this time your WRONG my friend!!Ive been around my share of cars also,maybe not as much because of our age gap,but Ive heard,saw,driven and worked on my share!!
thanks for your input..I have a lead on an article in car and driver on this very subject..I will get it for you as well..
Now, get a Ferrari or Lotus V8 with a 180-degree 'flat' crank - and it sounds completely different. Yamaha/Ford/Volvo's 60-degree (angle) V8 sounds different too.
I understand you think you hear something distinctive. I don't. I believe you'd fail the blindfold test --- but we can't do anything but talk about it. So - enough said.
Michael I value your input,and intelagence..Maybe youve been around too many carsMichael Yount said:Nope - hearing is in the 99th percentile according to my last physical. I was one of the few that actually used ear plugs when riding my cycle or racing cars.
I grew up in the muscle car era (driver's license in '69) and have been around/worked on/ridden in/driven more Chevy/Ford/Mopar/Oldsmobile/Buick V8's than I could count. If asked, I'd respond that I couldn't tell a Ford V8 from a Chevy V8 from a Mopar V8 from a Toyota V8 from a Porsche V8 by the sound they make. They're all 90 degree V8's with cranks that have successive throws with 90 degrees rotation between them -- they all sound similar. And I've seen the current stuff run at the track and on many dyno days -- blindfolded I don't think most folks could tell an LS1 from a 4.6L Ford from a 5.0L. Guy had a Porsche 928 4-cam/4 valve on the dyno a few months back -- sounded just like every other Chevy/Ford V8 that had run before it.
Michael I value your input,and intelagence..Maybe youve been around too many carsBut given the example of 2 cars I had early on in this thread (65 Lemans,,74 G.T ,,stock motors) if they were lined up and one at a time would give it one rev,with me blind folded,theres not a doupt in my mind I could tell them apart...Again,,Im talking stock motors here..
Its been a longgggggggggg time before I could say this,,but this time your WRONG my friend!!Ive been around my share of cars also,maybe not as much because of our age gap,but Ive heard,saw,driven and worked on my share!!
thanks for your input..I have a lead on an article in car and driver on this very subject..I will get it for you as well..
Now, get a Ferrari or Lotus V8 with a 180-degree 'flat' crank - and it sounds completely different. Yamaha/Ford/Volvo's 60-degree (angle) V8 sounds different too.
I understand you think you hear something distinctive. I don't. I believe you'd fail the blindfold test --- but we can't do anything but talk about it. So - enough said.
Michael Yount said:According to what you just posted, 5.0L's with different mods will all sound slightly different -- so how can they have a distinctive sound?
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