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226embarcadero

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Read this article today about how the Mustang/Camaro/Challenger will survive with $4 gas... and what kind of a future they might have.

Interesting.

http://kutvgreenerliving.com/articl...New-Muscle-Cars-Survive-With-High-Gas-Prices?
 

godfather55v

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another tree huger article, they just won't be happy until they shove that damn v6, or 4 down our thoughts in the GT. I'll be damned the price of gas, or it's availability, i will either keep my s197 gt or purchase a premium grade stang to keep a v8 in front of me. I think for realizes there are enough people like me out here that even if the 6 does creep into the GT they will be able to up sell us another v8 offering.
 

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I get as good of gas mileage in my '07 as my daily driver Contour, and better than my Explorer.
 

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go look up the ronale 300e, that is a better article. and no the mustang will never die it just might change. like a 300hp 2000tq motor under the hood. That would work for me
 
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I say if they decide against a V8 in a GT, then just kill the GT and let it die with dignity, pride, and a place in history.
 

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I personally think that if Ford Stops production on the Mustang they might as well just shut completely down. I don't really like any other vehicle they currently produce in America.
 

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JrzyBullitt said:
I say if they decide against a V8 in a GT, then just kill the GT and let it die with dignity, pride, and a place in history.
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And they can call the new one mustang III
 
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I think as long as people are buying cars they will buy mustangs in the same proportion. Gas is $8 a gallon in Europe and they still drive BMW 7 series, and Ferrari's. It's not that we need to blame cars for the gas prices, let's start putting blame on the oil companies. My Mustang didn't make gas more expensive, but everytime I buy one gas doubles.

My first mustang the next day gas went from 1.20/gallon to 2.00+ a gallon, and a couple months after this one we went from 2.60 a gallon to 4.20 a gallon. It's a curse!
 

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Mustangs actually get pretty decent highway fuel economy. Look at some of the V6 sedans out there and you will find it pretty close.

Either way, i'd be sad if they discontinued the V8...but as long as they stick something with some power under the hood i don't care. I'll take a 400HP Turbo V6 like what is rumored.

EVen if we go to alternative fuel i don't care. If doesn't matter to me what spins the wheels...I just care that they spin fast!

Only thing i'd miss though is the sound of the V8 engine...but i have my 5.0 and plan on keeping it for a long time. In 20 years gas cars could be gone from the highway, but i hope they have some available for the antiques still on the road. That's really my only big worry.
 
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PSYKOSTEVO said:
I think as long as people are buying cars they will buy mustangs in the same proportion. Gas is $8 a gallon in Europe and they still drive BMW 7 series, and Ferrari's. It's not that we need to blame cars for the gas prices, let's start putting blame on the oil companies. My Mustang didn't make gas more expensive, but everytime I buy one gas doubles.

My first mustang the next day gas went from 1.20/gallon to 2.00+ a gallon, and a couple months after this one we went from 2.60 a gallon to 4.20 a gallon. It's a curse!
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Europe is VERY VERY VERY urban. The US is VERY VERY VERY VERY SUB-urban. We drive so much more it's not even funny. I don't want to say that we need to become Europe, but we do need to take a few steps to become more urban or more independent of oil. Instead of driving to go to lunch, pack your lunch and stay at the office or walk down the street to the restaurant to get something to eat instead of driving. It's not all supply and demand, but it is a part of the oil prices and less supply = more surplus in the world and gas prices will fall. I mean, if the US were to stop buying gas completely I would bet money that oil would drop to $10 a gallon or less because of the amount of surplus in oil there would be.
 
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If they kill off the V8, our GTs will be worth $$$!
 

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They won't kill the mustang. Especially with the new Direct Injection motors comming about. If the change anything it will be the engine options. The latest I heard a mustang rolls off the dealer lot on average once every 15 minutes.
 

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They will never kill the V8. Perhaps offer a second primary engine, such as the twin turbo v6 we keep hearing about. The enthusiasts will ALWAYS provide a market for the V8 no matter what gas prices are.

My GT gets better mileage than my 2000 v6 did.
 

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Here's my question to all you people defending your V8s with such gusto.

If it has power, 300 HP or more... it sounds great... and can get 60 MPH in less than 5 seconds, who in the hell cares whether there are 8 cylinders or 6... or 4?

It doesn't. I think you guys are just having trouble wrapping your heads around something as arbitrary as cylinder count.

I'm as big a Mustang fan as anyone, yet I couldn't care less if they did away with the V8 and reintroduced something similar for the future.

The gas V8 won't be around forever. Sorry.
 

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the gas V8 will be around as long as i am and as far as i'm concerned that is forever. I find all this histarya that gas is going away amusing, because it isn't.

also i understand that yes the new 6's and 4's are powerful, i get you can get some massive torque from an electric motor, i'm not denying any of this, in fact i marvel at the technology. However the V8 offers it's own driving characteristics, not only in sound but in torque and but in driving feeling, how and when you shift, even just hearing the clap of the valves at idle. I most dread the thought of not being able to experience it. So i keep one eye on the "green" technologies and i might one day own something that employs some of them, but my horse will still be in the stable.
 

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You don't care about the v8 because you drive a v6....

So, with your theory... Every car with a V8 will be replaced with a smaller engine?

I dont buy into that.... If I wanted a v6 or v4 with balls I would have gotten a ricer.
 

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Nothing sounds as good as a V8.

If I wanted a 300 hp car that could do 0-60 in about the same time as mine, I would've bought a 350Z or a BMW 335i. You just cannot replace the sounds of the V8, or the torque (forget about diesel engines for a min).

As I said before, as long as there are car enthusiasts, there will be a gas V8 on the market. Simple supply and demand. Only thing that would prevent it is either government regulating against a V8 or once gasoline can no longer be produced. The latter will never happen, as gasoline will price itself out of the normal consumers budget (forcing an alternative) long before we run out.
 

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I agree Stangdude 100%...

It all comes down to the mighty dollar.... if people will buy them, people will sell them.
 

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A v6 in a GT is a deal breaker for me.

Nothing like V8 rumble. It's every bit as important as performance for me, I couldn't do without it.

I'll ride around in freezing weather with both windows down just to here my exhaust, I'd never do that with a V6.
 
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xxrequiemxx said:
You don't care about the v8 because you drive a v6....

So, with your theory... Every car with a V8 will be replaced with a smaller engine?

I dont buy into that.... If I wanted a v6 or v4 with balls I would have gotten a ricer.
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hahaha you said V4
 
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