tylers65 said:But if Ford said "No Mach after 2004" I would not expect to see one in 2005.
What does this mean?Z28x said:That is kind of sad there will be no '05 Mach 1. I really like the Mach 1 look.
I guess GM will win the Muscle car battle for 2005
The only "muscle cars" GM is currently making aren't even a competitor in the Mustang segment. I don't think that extra 5 hp (305hp Mach I/ 300hp 05) will win or lose the "muscle car battle".PACETTR said:What does this mean?The only "muscle cars" GM is currently making aren't even a competitor in the Mustang segment. I don't think that extra 5 hp (305hp Mach I/ 300hp 05) will win or lose the "muscle car battle".
who knows, GT500 or something??$33190.00 GTOZ28x said:Mustang GT 300HP vs. GTO 350HP (maybe 400HP by 2005)
A loaded GT will be only a grand or two less than the loaded GTO
This is a good thing for Mustang Fans, without good competition Ford would most likly leave the Stang at 300HP, but if they are getting beat by GM in HP then they will counter strike with more HP (like in the 03 Cobra)

PACETTR said:$33190.00 GTO
$26115.00 Mustang GT (loaded)
These are 04 prices. Both cars will increase in price for 05, with the Mustang most likely getting a little bigger increase. So there will probably be about a $6000 difference in price. I don't think that makes it a direct competitor. The Cobra, while not available for 05, is a much closer match, and we know who won the hp war there, don't we.![]()
LZR RED COBRA said:i dont see the GTO as a threat to mustang sales, at all.
and i doubt ford does either.
face it, without the camaro/firechicken, GM has no mustang competition
and the mustang will probably outsell the GTO 3 to 1 if not more.
LZR RED COBRA said:and the mustang will probably outsell the GTO 3 to 1 if not more.
pairofnines said:The GTO is a glorified Grand Am
pairofnines said:Exactly, keep your Pontiac GTO bs to yourself, completely different segments as far as I am concerned. The GTO is a glorified Grand Am, and I don't think it will sell well at all. Not a concern for Mustang sales.
tylers65 said:Ahem! This is a forum, he can talk about the GTO if he sees fit. The GTO is NOT a glorified Grand Am, it is a glorified Grand Prix. Which is what it was when it first came out.