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Wiring Help for the Mentally Challenged

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kpack5982

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I am going to be tackling a 3g install this weekend and got a pretty good writeup now, but need help wiring my mark viii fan. it's all modified to fit the stock shroud, so all I need is the wiring. I searched but couldn't find exactly what I am looking for. Could any one give me a VERY VERY detailed description of how to directly wire it to power and have a toggle switch to turn it on/off? I am so electricity stupid it is unbelievable so a step by step like "Connect the brown wire from the fan to ... " You get the idea. Thanks so for all the help in advance.
 

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Switching a fan on and off manually is a bad idea. Too many guys have been distracted (hot girl kissing on their neck, too much to drink, dog tired and not thinking clearly) and cooked things because they forgot to flip the switch. An equal number have forgotten to turn the switch off for the same reasons and run down their battery.

The best fan controller available today is a DC Control unit. www.dccontrol.com. Cost is about $110. Be prepared to wait 4 weeks or more to receive your controller once you have sent in your payment. The controllers are custom made in small lots and lead times can stretch out.

Next best is a SPAL controller - $70-$90 See http://www.spalusa.com/fans/automated/accessories/fanpwm.html. Ebay will have the controllers for the $70: do a google search and see what you find.

At the bottom are the Hayden or Imperial controllers available through Advance Discount Auto Parts and AutoZone. The non adjustable one is about $30 ( Hayden 226206) and the adjustable one is about $60 (Hayden 226204). I recommend you do a google search on Hayden and the part number for more info.

Do not use a simple on/off switch without using a relay. The current load can burn up the typical cheap automotive switch very quickly. The fan draws 30+amps and you need to use #10 wire on the fan power and ground wiring.

If you are good with electrical stuff (90% of the people here aren't), build your own controller. The numbers on the diagram (#86, #87, etc) refer to the numbers on the bottom of a typical automotive relay.



If you are an experienced electronics tech or electrical engineer, email me and it will send you the prototype drawings of a fan controller that is probably as good as the DC Control unit. It is a build it, troubleshoot it yourself item. I will not build or troubleshoot units, so it is not suitable for anyone who isn't really good with electronics.

Alternate placement for a temp gauge sender or temp switch/temp sensor for an electric fan. Use the heater feed that comes off the intake manifold. Cut the rubber hose that connects the manifold water feed to the heater and splice in a tee adapter for the temp gauge sender. Be sure to use the same water feed line as the ECT sensor. That way you will get the most accurate temp readings.

Tee adapter info:
Make a pilgrimage to your local hardware or home supply center and get some copper pipe and a tee that fits the temp gauge sender. Solder two pieces of copper pipe onto a copper pipe tee with threads in the tee part. Find the correct brass fitting to match the temp sender threads to the tee fitting.

 

kpack5982

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I assure you, none of the above is about to even happen. No one drives my car but me and I will not even think about driving it unless i am in a clear coherent state of mind. There is always a checklist I do every time i get in the car anyways. Sit in car turn on, let sit and idle for 3 minutes, check oil pressure, water temp, rpms at idle, then place into gear and take off. At night I have an auxillary light already wired into the fuse box I flip on as well, So it is doubtful I will forget. I appreciate the concern.

Anywho, how about a direct wiring? I am going to get a controller in the future when i can afford to do it the "right" way, but want to get this done. I appreciate the help, but i'm still baffled.

For instance: "Run a 10 gauge line from the negative battery terminal to the _____ , with a ____ Fuse in the line, which then connects to the ____ line in the fan" or something like that?
 

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FYI, the dccontrol.com site is not working.
 

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88-378 said:
FYI, the dccontrol.com site is not working.
Click to expand...

Brian appears to be limiting sales to a select few groups. He seems to have done this to not have as much wait time and have less hassles selling to idiots.

Here's an excerpt from a post of B. Baskin's:


On the site, you should have gotten a front page, but I'm limiting sales to this and a couple of other sites until I catch up.

send an email with the following from the DCC front page:

Subject line: STN

First line in text: Stangnet screen name

Order page:

URL: www.dccontrol.com/0820.htm

Qualification

Minimum 90 days stangnet member with appropriate post count to order
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Source: http://forums.stangnet.com/showpost.php?p=7064781&postcount=9
 
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