WOW, you have to see this 66 on Ebay!!!

SmockDoiley · Oct 23, 2004

So I often like to look for 65 and 66 fastback mustangs on Ebay and I really saw a doozy today. Its a 289 coupe, but the guy has it listed as a fastback. On top of that its running stock iron heads with 1.94 chevy valves, performer intake, carb and cam, and he claims its making 400 NA horses to the wheels. He also says it has an 8 3/4 rearend!!! Isnt that a mopar rearend?? Anyways, I called him on these issues and hes calling me the idiot. Unfortunately he has it set as a private auction so I cant inform the bidders of his stupidity. So maybe you guys can call him or email him since his number is listed in the listing and let him have it for trying to scam people. Just type in 1966 fastback in search and its the first car, its blue with white stripes.

Here is a paste of his reply to my email:
Scott,

It is obvious you know very little and have far to much time on your hands hence your incoherent rambles and your very bad conspiracy theories. For your information the car is fast really fast, like this, see my hand? Zooooooooooooom fast ya know? And I r think it is fasterer than your car AND AND I would hate to be such a big fat doody head like you.

Your momma wears combat boots
AKA
****zlawn

66stangmeister · Oct 23, 2004

thats the most hilarious thing ive read today. thank you lol

i suspect it's this one: mustang auction

SmockDoiley · Oct 23, 2004

Yep, that be her. I really hate to see an innocent mustang be in the hands of such an arrogant uninformed baffoon that has no respect or knowledge of it.

mr-fixit · Oct 23, 2004

Not to defend him, but putting 1.94 Chevy valves in small block Ford heads has been a popular upgrade since the sixties. It was much cheaper then buying the Ford GT-40 valves.

Ronstang · Oct 23, 2004

mr-fixit said:
Not to defend him, but putting 1.94 Chevy valves in small block Ford heads has been a popular upgrade since the sixties. It was much cheaper then buying the Ford GT-40 valves.

True....but there is no way anyone is going to get 400RWHP using a stock cast iron head and 1.94 valves unless they have a huge supercharger or a heck of a shot of NOS.

1320stang · Oct 23, 2004

Ronstang said:
True....but there is no way anyone is going to get 400RWHP using a stock cast iron head and 1.94 valves unless they have a huge supercharger or a heck of a shot of NOS.

Well, aluminum rods, tunnel ram with dual 660's, the heads need to be '69 351w heads with some porting, solid roller cam, it can be done, at 4 gallons to the mile But your right, that's not a 400 HP motor

SmockDoiley · Oct 23, 2004

Exactly, Im not saying it cant be done. But looking at this motor and reading what he has listed, he'd be an all-star if he could pull those numbers off

allcarfan · Oct 23, 2004

There is a disclaimer at the bottom stating that they know it is not a fastback, that it is a coupe.

Unfortunately, there is nothing wrong with that ad. The 8 3/4" rearend....he could have used a RULER and measured the rear end in a different place...so...he is covered there.

The ONLY thing is the 400 RWHP comment. that means he is putting out close to 500NA at the flywheel....i guess that is possible, but very unlikely, and very unstreetable.

stephen4785 · Oct 23, 2004

Hey what about the "Frame off restoration"? Didnt know our cars had frame rails.

Snail50 · Oct 23, 2004

gotta love those slapper traction bars.

Snail50 · Oct 23, 2004

last year I found on collectorcartraderonline.com a "67 Mustang" listed here in Miami. The pictures were clearly of a 68 coupe, from the running horse in the grille to the chrome accent behind the door (rather than the twin "vents" of a 67), to the front and rear side marker lights.

I called the guy who was selling it to ask what year the car was. his answer: 67. I asked if he was sure.
Yes.
So I asked him if there was anything strange about the car he needed to tell me.
Nope.
So I told him the car in the photo was a 68 & not a 67.

He asked me to hold on, and I could hear him mumbling to someone else in the room with him.

He gets back on and says "you know, that's a very good question, man. The car is a 67, but the previous owner restored it with a 68 body."

I asked a few more questions, and to every one he first said "that's a very good question," then he'd confer with his buddy with his hand over the phone, then answer me with some lame rambling vague explanation of how this happened or that happened, etc.

SmockDoiley · Oct 23, 2004

Actually allcarfan, he put the disclaimer up after I bitched to him. You can see that the disclaimer was added later after the post came up. Yes it would be possible to build that motor, but one of my biggest beefs is the lack of info. If you spent 10 years building this car like he claims and you had this super solid drivetrain, wouldnt you be proud of it. Wouldnt you list every part on it to show what has been done in hopes that it sparks more interest and makes the car more valuable. Instead his only info is that he milled the heads, installed slightly larger valves, poly locks, TRW pistons of some mystery comp ratio, and .030 overbore. Where are the aftermarket rods, forged crank, upgraded oil system, aftermarket ignition system.
Fact number one I forgot earlier: It says TRW rods and pistons, TRW doesnt make rods!
Fact two: Its supposedly a clip from a GT car. Original GTs had fog lamps and no valance scoop. Thats an aftermarket setup.

blown65 · Oct 23, 2004

stephen4785 said:
Hey what about the "Frame off restoration"? Didnt know our cars had frame rails.

ya, if thats his idea of a frame off restoration then he is completely mistake. Nice car, but far from that sort of quote. Or they did a piss poor job. Cant take it off the frame anyway. LOL

351carlo · Oct 23, 2004

You guys don't do frame off restos with your mustangs? Jeeze, unexperienced and worthless is all you are. J/K

I've got Chevy Valves in mine... so much of a nicer sizing in my Cleveland heads.

No way in hell is that 400 HP, not even close to that at the crank either.

mfp4073 · Oct 23, 2004

blown65 said:
ya, if thats his idea of a frame off restoration then he is completely mistake. Nice car, but far from that sort of quote. Or they did a piss poor job. Cant take it off the frame anyway. LOL

I was seriously wondering about the frame off restoration myself...that seems like it would be an aweful lot of cutting and welding...

67GTFastback · Oct 23, 2004

You hear the "frame-off" restoration used all of the time even though it isn't true by definition. To me, it has become a figure of speech. The car itself looks pretty nice and I think they did a good job on it by the looks of it. I have seen far worse misleading ads than this one...

blown65 · Oct 23, 2004

67GTFastback said:
You hear the "frame-off" restoration used all of the time even though it isn't true by definition. To me, it has become a figure of speech. The car itself looks pretty nice and I think they did a good job on it by the looks of it. I have seen far worse misleading ads than this one...

wow, I actually thought from the quote frame off it wasnt such a hot job. Guess its just what I expect.

I was just kiddin about the frame-off, I know its just a figure of speech, or at least now it is with unibody style cars.

reenmachine · Oct 24, 2004

I emailed the seller, nicely asking whether he had dyno sheets or if the 400RWHP was just an estimate. The reply:

It's just an estimate. I'll admit that it sounds a little high too, it's just what the owner of the car told us. It is very very fast though.....
Thanks,
Jasper

It's a dealer trying to sell the car for some guy, so all he has to go by is what the guy tells him.

66stangmeister · Oct 24, 2004

that sounds like a completely different person that what was originally posted. weird

WORTH · Oct 24, 2004

Just a couple of personal notes.

He is not a "car guy".

He is a "used car salesman"

I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him.

My sole evidence;

Look at the 2 pictures of him, one in the car and the other with his hand in his pocket.

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