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X303, 1.6 roller rockers, and protopline 180 58cc heads?

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If in fact my valvetrain is shot, I am thinking about going with the protopline 180 58cc heads.
(shown here are the 64cc flow numbers, and have been verified by an outside source) http://www.procylinderheads.com/f2204000180.htm
X303 camshaft with stock ratio roller rockers would be somewhere around this.
Advertised duration: 299 intake/309 exhaust
Duration at .050 in. cam lift: 222 intake/232 exhaust
Gross valve lift: .510 in. intake/.534 exhaust
Lobe separation: 112 degrees
Peak horsepower rpm: 6,000
Peak torque rpm: 2,750
Power range 2500-6000 - Fair to slightly rough idle
P/V clearance will be fully addressed by a machine shop. Stock pushrods and lifters will be okay?????
With my gt40 lower ported by Tom (tmoss), and a 70mm tbody, I hope to exceed 300rwhp, maybe 330 range.... possible?
 

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no comments huh?
 

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you say that you want the 58cc heads, but list the flows for the 64.... which one are you getting? go with the 64 to lessen the compression ratio.
 

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why would i want to lower compression when a blower or any power adder is not in the plan for this motor? It has hyper pistons
 

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IndyBlk5.0 said:
why would i want to lower compression when a blower or any power adder is not in the plan for this motor? It has hyper pistons
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my bad. i thought that for some reason you said something about a blower.
 

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scratch that cam, it is the wrong specs. need cam advise. Something that will fit =)
 

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hey, indy. i hope that someone will answer your questions because i have no idea. i think you should be 300+. as soon as you know you need to let me know first! i love the idea of an affordable head that can, from initial reviews, have great power potential.
 

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thanks wantagt...

Will my B303 with 1.7 roller rockers only hurt my performace? Or will it work well?
 

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if it was me i would run a bigger cam with 1.6, maybe a custom cam but i think the x would do fine. but i'm not an engine guru by any stretch so maybe someone will confirm for me
 

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pretty sure there is no way the X cam would clear. (p/v clearance wise)
michael yount? thumper? tmoss?
 

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you maybe need to cut your pistons
 

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WantaGT said:
if it was me i would run a bigger cam with 1.6, maybe a custom cam but i think the x would do fine. but i'm not an engine guru by any stretch so maybe someone will confirm for me
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A bigger cam with 1.6? That cam is already pretty damn big I doubt he needs anything bigger. If I were you and I was already tearing everything down to do it right, I would call someone up and get a custom ground cam to maximize your performance.
 

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A bigger cam with 1.6? That cam is already pretty damn big I doubt he needs anything bigger. If I were you and I was already tearing everything down to do it right, I would call someone up and get a custom ground cam to maximize your performance.
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it's definately not huge though
 

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it's definately not huge though
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True, I got away with running the x-303 with GT-40x aluminum heads with stock rockers/pushrods..

My opinion though would be to get a custom ground cam
 

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same here i'm just sayin i would rather have the x than teh b
 

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Valve events determine P/V/C not peak lift... IM me later I have a suggestion for you.
 
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