Scott_95GT said:
Agreed. Thats a good point about the price too.
Also, compare interior, brakes (Some early f-bodies had drums
), handling, build quality.
I agree with the pricing on the cars, mustangs are cheaper than the rest... conciderably cheaper. All this comes down to is who or what company you favor, obviously being ford people we're not going to just step aside for any other company no matter what and we absolutly love our mustang (hence why we even bought one to begin with). I was saying that mustangs fell behind as far as muscle cars go seeing how they were being almost over run by the power and
tourqe by the other companys, and even in other areas like rear-ends, and some trannys. Vettes have always been great, z28's and ss's have high horse power and torque engines aswell as stroger rear-ends and decent trannys, same with the T/A's and pretty much the same as the new gto. I will agree the modular engine is great... especially when modded. But i'm comparing them to stock numbers. Horse power to horse power, torque to torque, weight to weight, luxary to luxary (I will admit, aside from the new gto and new vettes, the mustang had them beat in this catagory).... etc. etc. All i'm saying is the mustang needs alittle work. Yes, '05 mustang is changed, more torque and horse power, better design, interior and everything, But aside from its' visual difference it is'nt to much different performance wise atleast not to the point where it's really noticible than the previous years GT, from only driving a '03 GT and only reading about the '05s' it seems like they are real similar (as far as performance). Yes, the camaros and T/A's stoped in '02, but thats another point of mine, they haven't been around for almost 3 years and now ford comes out with a 300hp mustang (a day late and a dollar short), but since then what other "muscle car, pony car, american sports car" or whatever the hell you want to call them (but you all knew what I was talking about) was left to compare against the mustang, pretty much the 'vette, then the new GTO (350hp and now 400hp for around 36k$, which isn't too bad) came out. Modulars VS Pushrods... I don't know how you guys are going to want to look at that? Two different sized engines and pretty much two different types of engine, ok... But that's what's great about the whole rivalry between ford and chevy/GM. Just like any rivalry one has to be the winner and I think as far as power goes (And this is what the thread had to do with in the first place, how much power or whatever will it take to beat a GT) chevy/GM has ford beat... not by much but a W is still a W. Luxury, Ford wins... no doubt, and looks, well aside from the new vette and gto, ford wins that one too as well as pricing. But my point is, this thread had to do with what will it take to beat a GT, so I brought up the point that the GTs aren't all that great, but what I should have followed that up with is, as far as muscle cars go, or as far as power goes. Again yes their torque is good and all that. What I would like to say is I would love to see ford come out with a new mustang (wait didn't ford just come out with a new mustang... yes, in a way) BUT, what I want to see is what every mustang lover whants to see, a mustang that will decimate 9 out of 10 of it's competators (of today and yesteryear)
and still be easy on the wallet. And maybe this mustang will be the one to do it, next year, or the year after when and if ford decides to bump up the power/torque numbers, change a part here or there on the engine or whatever and i'm not talking about the saleens or roushes or the gt500, hence the easy on your wallet part. I think that I maid a pretty good point last time but seeing how I messed up two things that really stand out. 1) this is mustang forum (biased opinions) and 2) I should have been more specific. That's pretty much what I meant when I said that a GT isn't all that great... which I should have been more specifice with. I want you all to understand that in no way am I saying that everybodys mustang and all mustangs sucks, but to me I think that ford could have done a little better in the power department, and thats just my opinion and hopefully you all see my point, if not then I don't know how else to explain it. Real quick as far as ricers go......... &*^@'em! Yeah, V6's have alot of competion with ricers, even some of the v8's are starting to get some competion.