Police are getting new license plate recognition technology - Video inside

[DTNODYA]

Very true...that's what this country is all about.

I'm pretty bummed out, I just found out that there's no Santa Claus. My parents LIED to me all these years....or was it Bush?

Merry Christmas to you as well!

WHAT?? NO SANTA? WTF?

Bush hates Santa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By the way, both of you are right ... that's what Americans need to understand. There is no such thing as right or wrong (in terms of debating views/opinions). TWO people with opposing views can both be 'right'. The bottom line is that we are just pieces of meat with neurons firing so arguing over stuff we have no control over is pointless. My 2 lincolns.


Merry X-mas to all you foolz.

 

[steveb24]

back to the topic.. which bush has NOTHING to do with, i think its a good idea and just there in the video it proved its value capturing an armed robber. i dont see anything wrong with that.

 

[FivePointStang]

We have that here in OH. They are yellow, so at night if you see one stay away.

My buddy and I call those "Party Plates"


Follow that guy to the party!!!

 

[streetstang03]

Oh yeah, it was part of our Constitution.

This procedure, part of English common law, was considered important enough to be specifically mentioned in the United States Constitution, which says, "The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it." (Article One, section nine).

I guess that doesn't really matter though huh.

you're implying that terrorists are U.S. citizens. The Constitution protects U.S. citizens only! not foreigners, terrorists, POWs or illegals. thanks for playing though

 

[myponyrocks]

He said un-insured vehicles twice when he was naming off what they download..

Good because people shouldn't be driving without insurance

This is a good thing as long as they don't abuse it IMO

 

[Shiroelex]

I don't really see this as any loss of privacy in any significant way... though I wish the public had some kind of tangible benefit (safety, less tax, etc) from them implementing it.

1) The whole point of having a license plate on your car is so that it can be uniquely identified, and

2) The system can probably be defeated by any of the means people use for photo radar, such as never washing the back of your car, or having a cloudy license plate "protector" (aka "obfuscator") on it.

Personally, I've always thought it would be sort of handy for purposes of recovering stolen vehicles, getting the license plate of the so-and-so that just cut you off, etc.

It seems this, as with many recent "privacy" issues, illustrates another situation where technology is just overcoming the inconvenience of of a task people "assume" others are too lazy to do manually. For example, in Oregon, the DMV got yelled at for selling CDs of all license plate info in the state. The argument was that someone could cruise the airport parking lot, look up the plate of a lexus or porsche, and find out whose houses to rob. Well, there's not really any reason they couldn't have done that before, it's just a matter of less accountability/traceability, less immediacy, and less inconvenience.

Unfortunately part of the cost of living in the information age is that information is ever-more-readily available -- to the good guys as well as the bad guys. To a certain extent, the good guys currently are the only people who can afford it, but I'm sure wealthy criminals will soon, and then who would you prefer to have the data? Because as with guns and everything else, criminals will always be able to do stuff like that (see also: identity theft), regardless of what laws might be in place.

 

[LaserRed01GT]

You're exactly right. We were wrong in the way we treated our detainees... We should have cut their heads off and posted a video of it on the internet for the whole world to see. Where's your list?

watch out for the silent black helicopters too!!

you're implying that terrorists are U.S. citizens. The Constitution protects U.S. citizens only! not foreigners, terrorists, POWs or illegals. thanks for playing though

Amen brothers.

I will never understand why people insist of blaming Bush for everything that goes wrong in this world. Not much amazes me anymore, but the liberals never fail to do just that. In my opinion, it's just the sincerest form of benumed flattery towards a great leader that is doing his damndest to protect this country we call home. The Bush family has the hearts, resolve, and moral conviction comparible to that of the greatest of the presidential family's in history.

I do not believe that any of this new police technology in any way infringes on our Civil Liberties/Rights. Now when they start requiring all citizens to place microscopic RFID transponders under our skin, then I'll reevaluate my position.

Until then I will gladly continue to pay taxes so that my family can have the protection of the police department and fire department, so that children have the oppurtunity to go to school, so that our courts and jails have the means to put scumbags away, so that our social services have the capacity to help those who truly need it, so that I have a public road in which to drive on so that I may go to work and earn the money to work on my cars, and so that our military can go out and kick the asses of any of those who are willing to, at any cost, take away these very things from us.

 

[urban96]

Yep, and once they label you a terrotist (Patriot Act) which they can do.
Then this applies.

Oh yeah, it was part of our Constitution.

This procedure, part of English common law, was considered important enough to be specifically mentioned in the United States Constitution, which says, "The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it." (Article One, section nine).

I guess that doesn't really matter though huh.

i agree with what your saying. IF the gov wanted to whats stopping them from picking you up, labeling you a terrorist and holding you in custody for however long they wanted while you couldnt contact anyone. Its scary how far bush has taken things and i dont see it getting any better, atleast not untill hes out of office

 

[DTNODYA]

I do not believe that any of this new police technology in any way infringes on our Civil Liberties/Rights. Now when they start requiring all citizens to place microscopic RFID transponders under our skin, then I'll reevaluate my position.

Until then I will gladly continue to pay taxes so that my family can have the protection of the police department and fire department, so that children have the oppurtunity to go to school, so that our courts and jails have the means to put scumbags away, so that our social services have the capacity to help those who truly need it, so that I have a public road in which to drive on so that I may go to work and earn the money to work on my cars, and so that our military can go out and kick the asses of any of those who are willing to, at any cost, take away these very things from us.

As for the RFID tags ... I've read that relatively soon, they will be in grocery stores. So the goods come into the store with tags on them, people buy them and don't even pay, it just comes out of their bank account (items are scanned as they walk by) and the tags will tell you when you need to get more milk and all types of crazy ****. When that day comes, it will cross the privacy line.

The plate thingy in the video is a good thing assuming that cops are only going to use it for the purposes he mentioned. If they are going to ride around and have their cameras take pictures of everyone speeding and mail tickets or some trash, that's too much. I don't even think it should be illegal to speed unless you are driving wild/reckless, etc... That's off topic too. Bottom line as I see it, their time can be better spent; go catch robbers, killers, ensure safety for neighborhoods by patrolling, and so on. Riding around with cameras taking pictures of peoples' lisense plates to determine if they are legal or not is just a way to make some money (not in all cases of course).

Don't get me wrong, I see the benefits too but it's always good to look at all possibilities of everything.

 

[Jinx]

We have that here in OH. They are yellow, so at night if you see one stay away.

I couldn't help but laugh at that fact. Our County owned vehicles all have Yellow Gov't tags

 

[DBMSTNG]

well here in California they are trying to get special plates for people that get D.U.I's on there record, they will be red

we've already got that here in Ohio. they are a goldish brown color. we call them party plates.

personally i see nothing wrong with the plates. don't drink and drive and you won't have to worry about the plates. btw, you get the plates after 2 offenses. it's amazing and scary how many people have them.

 

[Miles]

If cops got any lazier...

 

[LaserRed01GT]

If cops got any lazier...

You meant to say more efficient I'm sure.

 

[04DarkShadowGT]

"When they took the Fourth Amendment, I was silent because I don’t deal drugs. When they took the Sixth Amendment, I kept quiet because I know I’m innocent. When they took the Second Amendment, I said nothing because I don’t own a gun. Now they’ve come for the First Amendment, and I can’t say anything at all."
- Tim Freeman

Hopefully one day all you innocent people aren't sorry when it's too late.
Your rights are being taken away, thanks Bush.

Ever hear of Habias Corpus?
Well our kids will read about in the history books, look it up.

If you think they will just be nice guys and stop with uninsured people, get real.
It's purely a stepping stone, they'll get you to say this is fine, then they work more and more into the system.

Seeing as how that video was shot in Canada, I am not sure what Bush has to do with that. That being said stuff like that has been comming along long before Bush took office so its not something you can blame on one guy, well at least a person who can think for themselves and doesn't eat the spoon feed BS he hears without thinking for him/herself.

Dont get it wrong I am not saying I approve of the job Bush did, but he gets blamed for everything including stuff he has no control over.

 

[CENTENNIALSTANG]

Things will change over time just like in Rome, Egypt, Greece, and every other superpower in history maybe our times up. I hope not but just look at America its going down the drain people are getting dumber every year im not saying im some genius (i cant spell) but i have commen sense and morals and most people my age dont. Look at China, India to move up there education system is awsome and most of there youth are driven and ambitious most people my age are lazy and worthless and want everything given to them. Maybe after WWIII that we all know is coming sometime, will rise up the new superpower to dominate for awile untile there times up. Like history has proven over and over agian.

 

[PULMEOVR]

Cool, it's Canadian. More software that I will be using at work. I can't wait!

 

[GDawg]

It's a double edged sword. Just like when they enacted the seatbelt laws. At first they said they would not site you for no seatbelt unless you were pulled over for something else and weren't wearing it but they would not pull you over for sealbelt only.

Now most states can pull you over for not wearing a seatbelt so then they can check you for other things. This makes it easier to pull over suspicious profiled people.

Soon this device would be used to find accused dead beat dads that are guilty before being proven innocent. Or known friends of accused criminals. Or people that drive through drug areas more than once for whatever reason.

Just like the cameras at every street corner that are "watching the traffic" that have already been used to watch the citizens. Or the government scanning emails or cell phone calls.

I think it's a little much but I doubt we can do anything about our rights to privacy.

 

[Rynostangs69]

lazy huh?

If cops got any lazier...

Well from the "pig" side of things, the cops I work with (and for) aren't getting any lazier, but the people I/we serve are. Meaning that they are too lazy to actually raise their kids properly and expect me to come in and fix a problem the began 10 years ago. Most of the time this is b/c they don't want to stop watching "daytime soaps" and spend time with their children. To actually teach them the right way to live and be productive members of society. Same thing with these boyfriend/girlfriend and husband/wife disputes. Couples get into arguments, they disagree with each other, its normal... But just b/c your other half doesn't take out the trash and calls you an ******* for yelling at them for forgetting, doesn't mean you call the cops and file charges for a DV, you just work through it and be big boys and girls. People don't want to deal with their own issues, which can also be applied in the political argument going on here also. People want to watch American Idol and complain about the president. People want to be able to speed, shoot at other people who cut them off when driving and get welfare checks twice a week. People are lazier, not the cops.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[bluextc]

Another step towards total gov't control.

I agree. It takes pictures, and I am sure they are being stored, or will in the future, which means the government can now keep track of everywhere you go. I'm not doing anything wrong besides a little vehicle modification, but I do not need the government keeping track of which supermarket I went to, and which of my daughter's friends' house I may have dropped her off at...

 

[myponyrocks]

and I thought a lot of NRA members were paranoid... you people crack me up... do you not realise we can allready zoom in on your plate from outer space...

The only difference IMO is that a cop driving down the road IF you have done something wrong, or if you're a POS without insurance, he can take care of you before you become MY problem.

I could care less what they do with whatever. The govt. has been in my buisiness and every one elses more than they probly realise, and you know what, I could care less as long as they don't use it against me when I have done nothing wrong, what DO I have to fear?