KB 2.6, 2005 GT throwing belts, HELP!!!!!!

[flyboy86]

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[Hoboattacker]

Get the thump_rrr tensioner. Do a google search or go to modular fords or s197forum.com and search for him there. It will solve all of your tensioner problems and most likely your belt problems. Its expensive, but it sure beats shredding a bunch of belts all the time!

 

[flyboy86]

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Is this the only reason I keep throwing belts? Just the tensioner?

Also, does anyone know where else i can get a 124.7 inch belt? I've been ordering them through KB, but i've heard some parts stores carry them in 8 rib and you can trim them? does Napa carry them?
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[Hoboattacker]

Yeah, shoot him a PM and ask him about it. From what I've read, the tensioner on the KB's is the main reason you throw belts. You can ask him more in depth questions, but I'm pretty sure a tensioner would solve all of your problems.

I wouldn't trim a belt, but that's just me. Try some local auto stores and see if they have them in 6 ribs. If not, find a place online.

 

[kooldawg6]

That sux Matt!
Try PMing emay or HEAVYGT as well.

 

[HEAVYGT]

That sux Matt!
Try PMing emay or HEAVYGT as well.

Knock on wood, but i have not had that problem. I would think if you are breaking that many tensioners and belts on such a large pulley, something is definitely not lined up correctly.

 

[flyboy86]

Doing some searches, this seems like a common problem, and the solution is to get the "thumper tensioner" I talked to him, and he said the only other reason could be if they're out of alignment. He mentioned them being out of alignment by about 1 cog, and that is NOT the case on mine. I watched it idle for a long time, and as far as my eye can see, they're all perfectly aligned. How far un-aligned would they need to be for it to be a problem?

 

[Emay]

The tensioner was originally developed by thumprrr because he was breaking/bending the actual tensioner repeatedly. Just losing the belt was not the original reason for development. The tension failed and then the belt carnage would occur.

Make sure that your belt is free and clear of all obstacles when going around the pulleys, if it is shreading you have a problem with alignment or rub at high rpm. That wouldn't be a tensioner issue with that big old pulley on the car.

I do remember KB having an insert for an additional idler install that they supply in the kit. That added pulley cleared up a big rubbing issue on the driver side of the car. I'd start there, then have someone rev the car to 3500 or so RPM's while you watch the belt, make sure it travels clean.

 

[flyboy86]

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[anthony05gt]

I have Thumps tensioner and it's the cat's balls. Best made tensioner I've seen. I've had my Whipple on since November and the belt still looks like new. Get one now!

 

[88GTtom]

get one!!!

 

[flyboy86]

get one!!!

did that. Installed. Seems to be working great now!

Question for anyone with the thump rrr tensioner....

how much travel do you see with it? When the car isn't running, or its idling, how far is the bolt from the stop point?

 

[88GTtom]

this is with a 3.625 8lb pulley, supplied whipple belt and the 100mm ideler pulley
never once noticed any belt slip, belt looks great still, even tho i only have 300 miles on the supercharger

 

[flyboy86]

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