NotQuik
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Tackled the Spark Plugs Tonight...
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gashog
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Correct, but not on the bridge of the electrode. if you download the PDF that I linked to, you will see a picture!
-Jason
gashog
Member
I tried it again, it works. make sure you are going to the right link and not the link with ......... in the middle.
GOLDENPONY
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You are correct Sir. If you get anti-seize on the "firing end", it WILL short out the plug.
How can you tell that the antiseize you use is Nickel antiseize? I used the Permatex Antiseize found in most auto parts stores that says good up to 1600 deg F. Did I screw it up by using this antiseize and not the Motorcraft Nickel one? This Permatex does not say if it has nickel or not. It seems to be running fine after cleaning it and applying this to it.
It will clearly say Nickel Anti-Seize. This is what I got:
http://www.fastenal.com/web/products/detail.ex?sku=62525
cave diver
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It will say "Nickel" and will have a temperature range of at least 2,400 degrees. The nickel anti-seize I got is rated at 2,600 degrees. I'm afraid that the 1,600 degree anti-seize will burn off. Best to get the right stuff.
88GTtom
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if the ford tech breaks the plug, you will pay for the labor to remove it. they dont cover it under warrantee because they say the plugs are good till 100,000 miles and by that time everyone is out of warrantee. read on some other post a guy paid almosy 1000.00 dollars because ford broke 5 of the 8 plugs
Wow, I went to Oreiley's, Autozone, and Advanced and they did not have the Nickel Antiseize. Did not know it was that hard to find, the best I saw was a Copper Antiseize that said 2000+degrees. Later today I will try Napa and Pep Boys, where did you guys buy yours, and will it be bad if I drive my car with the other antiseize? I figure it will just burn off and provide no protection but should not cause any issues.
You should be OK. I got my from Fastenal. NAPA should have it or be able to order it for you. Check the Fastenal site, there might be a location near you.
Just an update. I tried Pepboys and Napa and no luck. I found a Fastenal place close to me and when I went all they had was the 1LB bottle for $37.50, way too much anti-seize then I need and too expensive. I went to the dealership and ordered XL-2 which is their Motorcraft part number and it was $20 for an 8oz. Iasked them for Nickel antiseize and they looked at me like what??? I had to find the part number on my own. Just thought some folks would need this info.
GOLDENPONY
Founding Member
Cool deal! You can use it for other things also. My 16oz should last me 12.4 years! lol.
I got my Permatex nickel anti-seize from Amazon.com of all places.
Yea, they also sell the penetrating lubricant.
Art161
Member
if the ford tech breaks the plug, you will pay for the labor to remove it. they dont cover it under warrantee because they say the plugs are good till 100,000 miles and by that time everyone is out of warrantee. read on some other post a guy paid almosy 1000.00 dollars because ford broke 5 of the 8 plugs
I thought that when a shop gives you an estimate for a job, they need to stick to that price if they break something. The occasional breaking of something should be built into the estimate. In many cases the shop estimates a price for a job and finishes it much quicker than what was figured into the estimate. They charge the estimate price. In the long run, things should balance out. Sometimes the shop eats the bear and sometimes the bear eats the shop.
thats why they call it an estimate. they are estimating (based on published time figures) the repair cost. they are not planning on additional work that is unforeseen. techs and shops make money by being efficient. the faster you can do the job, the more jobs go through the door, the more you make. i dont know of any shop that would take care of unforeseen issues for free, unless it was a very small task.
techs work on commission (flat rate) and they wont work for free. would you?
Art161
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If I broke something, I would not charge an additional amount.
One of the meanings of "estimate" in my dictionary is "a statement of cost of work to be done." I think that is the definition that the California Bureau of Automotive Repair uses. A shop can not charge more than the initial estimate unless the customer approves it. If I were given an estimate of $200 to change the spark plugs, and the shop called to say they broke some of the plugs and wanted $1000 to do the job, I doubt I would approve it.
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