My entire comparison is what the general public does....status symbols are beyond just $150k cars. You personally might not care about your house or car....but i have to say u are in the minority. Thats cool though.
The automotive magazine world compares the Mustang to Corvette. Most people, not given the idea, would never really pose the comparison beyond the seating capacity and the simple realization one is a true sports car and the other is not. Status symbols less than 150K are common, but even a home, at 150K, can look really nice. That said, people who care about their home need not spend hundreds of thousands on the initial purchase. The same applies to a car. Just because you care about your car doesn't mean you have to spend several times what a car costs. I could purchase the least expensive car made and still care about it. Nothing to do with cost or symbolism.
The mustang seats 4 what? lol. I know its not 4 adults. Thats one thing the GTO is great at (and it pays for it on the scale) is seating 4 adults. The mustang is nothing more than 2 adults and 2 kids in the back....or 2 adults and 1 adult across the seats in the back. Yes 4 are possible....but its not highly advised to do so.
I never said 4 comfortable adults, just 4 people... If your goal is to move 4 people 100 miles in 2 hours in a fairly economical manner, would you choose to do that in a Corvette or a Mustang? See the point? That said, how comfy would those 4 adults be in the Corvette all at once? My bet is, much less comfy than those in a Mustang. Sure you could get a used GTO and have 4 more comfortable people.
Then again, you could also get a used Mercury Marauder and they'd be more comfy still... at about the price of the GTO, which cost as much(more really) in base form in 2004,5 and 6 than a 2011 Mustang GT costs today. Does the GTO perform better than the Mustang GT? No, indeed the opposite is obvious. The GTO does better than the Marauder though...
Im not comparing ford quality to gm quality. I simply said the build quality of the GTO is better than the mustang. Cool?
How can you say that? The GTO is(was) built by GM... The Mustang is built by Ford. Saying that the quality of the GTO is better than the Mustang is a direct comparison, not just some generalization. It pits one car against the other specifically in quality. How could it not be viewed as a comparison when it clearly is. For the record, having been inside both I can say, I definitely like the GTO. In fact, I prefer the layout for comfort. I don't base "build quality" on comfort alone and overall, it seems not one bit better in quality than the Mustang. To me, comfort has little to do with quality and much to do with size and layout.
Get out and take a look around each. Can you see obvious advantages in the GTO for fit and finish? I can't. When you get inside, the GTO looks more "plush" and feels nice, thanks in large part to room. Will it outlast the Mustang? No, it doesn't seem to do that. Ford quality in general is, even though GM picked up the ball in the 90's, better than that of GM based on countless comparisons over the past 30yrs(before which each was bad throughout the 70's).
A mustang gt has no place being compared to a vette. Not today. Not tomorrow. Keep it with the camaro....the comparison works out much better for Ford.
True. Since the Camaro was designed to be direct competition and the Corvette was and is Chevrolet's "flagship" car, which the Mustang never has been for Ford, it only makes sense.
At the end of the day its all personal preference. You might think its a great deal paying $40k for a new mustang. I'd never do that . Its cool to agree to disagree.
For the person making a purchase, that along with practicality is really all it comes down to ultimately. Is the car worth the money to him/her... I not only don't think 40K is a great deal on the Mustang GT, I believe anyone foolish enough to pay that deserves the ripoff they get.
I don't even want it at the 30K price, where it starts. The fact is, for 40K, you can have a well equipped convertible GT and you need not spend within 8 thousand of that for a well equipped GT. Excluding TTL, you can purchase a Mustang GT with the
Brembo brake package for under $32,000 including destination AT STICKER PRICE... 40K is the running internet joke in my book, considering Ford advertises the real pricing at far less even without haggling or incentives.
PS- Were u really asking if i have owned a mustang? That line in bold confused me :headscratch: Not begging to knock them....surely dont have to be all happy in the pants about the car though.
It seemed you were being very sarcastic, so I was.
The best combo in my opinion is still a mustang body with a LSX motor. I'll be a mustang fan boy when ford gets over this retro styling.
Since Ford doesn't offer a Mustang with any LSx engine, that combo is not in question. You may as well say the Camaro would be better if they used "Brand X" body with their own engine. They don't, that's that.
All indications are, aside from the ACTUAL "LSX block" GM has no overall advantage over the Modular Ford builds. The real LSX is a race block, not used in any production vehicle.
I'd prefer a Mustang with the 351W based engine, at 408ci, aluminum block with all forged components, I-beam rods and 9:1 compression with TFS Twisted Wedge R heads, a Spyder intake and an electric water pump... They don't make it... That's up to us if we really want it, regardless the cost.
As for the retro styling, it isn't for everyone, same as with the Camaro... But Mustangs and Camaros are selling like hotcakes to an early morning construction crew! I haven't seen the latest numbers, but I suspect the 2011 GT is already outselling the Camaro, along with the other competition it's been outselling forever. The 2010 Camaro outsold the Mustang for 2010(and possibly 2009)... with retro styling.
Thanks to companies like Livernois Motorsports, the Mustang is only getting better in performance. Thanks to Ford, it's already the best in class. One need not be a fan boy to see these realities. I have NO intentions of owning a new Mustang GT, but that doesn't mean it isn't a great car any more than it means it's under priced.
Fun conversation... Seriously.