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groovyone

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First, a quick description of the car:
2003 Cobra, 21K miles (I know, not driven nearly enough), fairly basic upgrades including air intake, Accufab TB, 2.8" pulley, Bassani X and Cat-back.

As I was driving home today I was slowing down around a highway feeder entry ramp, when I heard a LOUD pop sound. I immediately thought I had run something over, but saw nothing. The clutch was in and I was braking gently. About 15 feet later as I was still slowing, I started to get a whine from the engine very similar to a pulley bearing failing, so I pulled over. Couldn't find the source, shut the car off, turned it on, and it seemed okay. I nursed it home without hearing the noise until approaching my driveway.

Once home I was able to pinpoint the noise, I think, to the REAR of the engine, on the passenger side. As much as I hate to say it, it almost sounds like it is coming from the passenger side head.

Has anyone with a 03/04 ever had a bolt fail in the cam journals?

So far, the car seems to be running fine. All gauges read like normal, and the idle does not seem to have been affected. The noise does seem to change accordingly with the RPM of the engine.

I am really hoping I misdiagnosed the source of the sound. I have replaced pulleys on this car and my Jeep, so I am familiar with that sound, and I have had an exhaust leak on the car and a cracked manifold on the Jeep, and did not get quite this sound. Needless to say I am a little freaked, especially since there was a loud pop or crack sound prior to the new noise, but I have not yet begun to pull anything apart. Any suggestions?

My plan so far is to start with the usual suspects by double checking the idler pullies, but after that my only plan was to begin pulling the inkate system to get access to the passenger side spark plugs. I really thought I'd be doing any intenal engine work on my 130K mile Jeep first, and I hope that is still the case.

EDIT: I did just double check the TSB/Recall info and read the report on the head replacement. I guess my first step will now be to call the dealer and see if that is the issue, since my car was built in Sept 2002. Can't hurt, right?
 
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Uncle Meat

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The head replacement was for the drivers side not passenger and it was for a "Ticking" noise. What kind of noise are you hearing? You said you heard a loud "pop" when driving, but now you're hearing a "whine"? Can you be a little more descriptive of what exactly you're hearing?

U.M.
 
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Best I can decribe it now is a ticking. Not real loud, but audible inside the car at low speed. It does eseem to be RPM dependant, like a pulley bearing failure would, so that will be my first step. Try the easiest to access and fix parts first. My plan is to spend some time after work trying to narrow down to possible causes.

The POP before hand is what has me concerned. It was immediately before the ticking started, so I sincerely doubt that coincidence is a possibility.
 

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If you have warrenty go to dealer.
 
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Genghis Mach said:
If you have warrenty go to dealer.
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Even if he still had warranty left he better hope the service dept. is cool... his car is modified to the point that most dealerships would void the powertrain warranty.

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I have had it since 9/2002, so the 3 year warrentee is looong gone. My current plan is check the easy stuff tonight then take it to a Cobra pro on Saturday.
 
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Maybe a little bit of pre-det that hurt a valve. That would be my first inclination... hope it isn't correct!
 

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$10 bet he had his first backfire w/ an x-pipe. Which would heighten anyones concern.
 
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cold96snake said:
$10 bet he had his first backfire w/ an x-pipe. Which would heighten anyones concern.
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Ah, if only it were that simple, but I have had this exhaust on it for 4 1/2 years now, and have heard many a backfire.

I finally got home and calmly thought through what had happened, and I think I found the source...I hope.

Started the car and it sounded fine, just the usually noises and nice growl. Looked around and listened for anything, and heard nothing. Then I turned on the AC. Holy HELL! It sounds like grinding metal in the compressor. So I shut off the AC and a quiter but still bad sound continued for about 30 seconds to 1 minute. This was the sound I heard when I had stopped the car, and again when I got it home. Judging from the POP I had heard, I wouldn't be surprised if it just blew most of the refridgerant out.

Good news, a calm and rational checkout showed I likely over reacted. Bad news is I have no idea how the heck to get at the compressor. When I replaced the one on my 4.0 XJ, it sits right on top of the motor on the passenger side. This one seems to be buried, and that would explain why the noise sounded like it was coming from the rear of the engine.

SO, I appreciate the inputs, and only have one more question for now.

ANYONE have a good explanation/instruction for how to replace the AC compressor on one of these guys?

Normally I'd say I had time to get to it later, but this is Houston, and today was still 87 or 88. Thanks again for inputs, and hopefully my overreaction is understandable. I tend to fear the worst with this car, but it has usually worked out to be far less than I initially thought.
 
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Took it for a spin around the block. The quieter noise comes on occasion, but doesn't last more than a minute or so. I plan on borrowing a friends AC pressure setup to check the lines, and if the system is still pressurized then it should narrow it down to the pulley/clutch on the AC compressor. Any advice on getting to the pulley/compressor would be greatly appreciated.
 
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That would have scared me out of my wits too. All over something as useless as A/C.
 
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mrrob96fs said:
That would have scared me out of my wits too. All over something as useless as A/C.
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Yeah, I actually laughed a little once I narrowed it down.
 
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