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7upstang91

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A5literMan said:
^^^15k-at that point we could have a big inch dart. But that aluminator is badass
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I think better 4v motors can be built for less.
84Ttop said:
What am I missing? Late to the party over here...
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You missed NMRA this weekend!
 
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7upstang91 said:
I think better 4v motors can be built for less.

You missed NMRA this weekend!
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Agreed.

For me..I absolutely love the coyote swaps...but if spending big money(15+k) I'd go with a dart 427/445 with high ports/solid roller/nitrous etc. I'd go coyote for a street/driver occasional track car.
 

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A5literMan said:
Agreed.

For me..I absolutely love the coyote swaps...but if spending big money(15+k) I'd go with a dart 427/445 with high ports/solid roller/nitrous etc. I'd go coyote for a street/driver occasional track car.
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Coming from the guy that built an "almost gangster" 438, The next race motor will likely be a coyote. I have some big plans for the new car and they revolve around the possibility of putting a 1,500+hp coyote in that sucker. I think dollar for dollar its cheaper to build the coyote. When you are using factory casting heads vs heads that cost in the range of 10k+ a pair it adds up quick. The next upgrade to my sbf involves atleast 10k in cylinder heads and that can get me more than half way to that coyote I'm thinking about putting together.

Did I derail this?? Sorry, I'm in my own world today.
 
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My only gripe with the coyote engine is the same one Ford has made with all their modular engines.....and that's that they left no real room for growth.

Ford could save a boat load of money on R&D if the just left some on the table from the get go.

Old Coyote engine power levels getting stale....no problem. Give it a poke and stroke and now we've got a 6.0L coyote....that just gave the engine a boat load more horsepower and torque, and the engine platform another 5-years of life and left the aftermarket wide open.

Hell, what do they think GM has done for the last 15-years with their LS engines and look at the mileage they've been getting out of that same old platform.
 
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A5literMan said:
Agreed.

For me..I absolutely love the coyote swaps...but if spending big money(15+k) I'd go with a dart 427/445 with high ports/solid roller/nitrous etc. I'd go coyote for a street/driver occasional track car.
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Not sure why would, the Turbo Coyote class is going bottom 8s, heck I know a few of the cars have gone 7's. Coyote Modified is the same way, bottom 8s, now 7s. Needless to say, these 5.0 coyotes are holding their own. Justin Jordan won the Turbo Coyote class this weekend and drove his car to work this morning running 8.0s, the car has been 7s.
84Ttop said:
Coming from the guy that built an "almost gangster" 438, The next race motor will likely be a coyote. I have some big plans for the new car and they revolve around the possibility of putting a 1,500+hp coyote in that sucker. I think dollar for dollar its cheaper to build the coyote. When you are using factory casting heads vs heads that cost in the range of 10k+ a pair it adds up quick. The next upgrade to my sbf involves atleast 10k in cylinder heads and that can get me more than half way to that coyote I'm thinking about putting together.

Did I derail this?? Sorry, I'm in my own world today.
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I heard a rumor the 5.2 blocks will hold 1500hp, but I wouldn't want to take chance it. Are you going to sleeve?
 
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Sleeves are the way to go apparently. I don't remember his overall power goals but he got into the 8s last year with the 4.6 and obviously you don't rebuild to go slower lol. These coyotes are really impressive, I'm curious what sleeves and head studs allow.
That's the only reason the LS guys can run around claiming 1,000hp 5.3s. good cylinder walls, clamp the head on tight as hell, and Throw boost at it til it dies.

 
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I think the sleeve/no sleeve debate raged pretty hard here last year. All I know is the few 1k+ guys here in the Houston area all sleeved their coyotes. Whether or not it is necessary is open for debate, but I do like the idea of insurance.
 

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Most are sleeving them for sure. They break around 1200-1300 hp range. Either way, they are nasty little motors.
 

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tannerc91gt said:
Sleeves are the way to go apparently. I don't remember his overall power goals but he got into the 8s last year with the 4.6 and obviously you don't rebuild to go slower lol. These coyotes are really impressive, I'm curious what sleeves and head studs allow.
That's the only reason the LS guys can run around claiming 1,000hp 5.3s. good cylinder walls, clamp the head on tight as hell, and Throw boost at it til it dies.

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JPC found out on Thursday when theirs went up in a cloud of smoke.
 

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7upstang91 said:
Not sure why would, the Turbo Coyote class is going bottom 8s, heck I know a few of the cars have gone 7's. Coyote Modified is the same way, bottom 8s, now 7s. Needless to say, these 5.0 coyotes are holding their own. Justin Jordan won the Turbo Coyote class this weekend and drove his car to work this morning running 8.0s, the car has been 7s.
I heard a rumor the 5.2 blocks will hold 1500hp, but I wouldn't want to take chance it. Are you going to sleeve?
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Darton sleeved motor for sure
 
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