1-D-1 Shuffle

Nopantz · Jun 19, 2006

So i swore i would never do it for the sake of my tranny...well today i tried it out and now can't stop...I give my tranny a week if i keep it up.......i cant imagine what i'll be doin to her after i get the converter, gears, and shift kit.....oh by the way in that can i beat these imports thread i know there is alot of smack talking goin on especially about AODs......dont hate the AOD.....so there slow, heavy and sluggish stock...but their in our "Darling Mustangs" which we love.....

Anyways AODs can be beastly with the right mods juss like a 5-speed

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Aliate X · Jun 19, 2006

Thats how I felt about powershifting, then my trans blew up 2 months later, no more powershifting for me. I dunno what a "1-d-1 shuffle" feels like though.

poneypower89 · Jun 19, 2006

A properly build AOD will outperform any T-5.. period.

Nopantz · Jun 19, 2006

it feels pretty cool and it should be more fun once there is a shift kit in there to make it nice and hard.

90_Red_LX · Jun 19, 2006

Does the 1-D-1 shuffle still need to be performed after a shift kit install? Or does it correct the problem? Just curious because I don't own an AOD and any extra information I can absorb would be great.

Aliate X · Jun 19, 2006

poneypower89 said:
A properly build AOD will outperform any T-5.. period.

lol a little broad on that statement there buddy.

poneypower89 · Jun 19, 2006

Aliate X said:
lol a little broad on that statement there buddy.

Yea, I guess so.. let me rephrase that...

A properly Build AOD will outperform any t-5 in a 1/4 mile PERIOD

wasnt thinking about autocross and the like... in which case an auto wouldnt be ideal. but in drag racing... an auto is the way to go.

Nopantz · Jun 19, 2006

didnt mean to start another debate thread guys....hahaha...anyways 90 Red Lx i believe it depends on the shift kit you buy....but i dont think the actually shift kits do anything to the shift pattern of the AOD they just firm up the shifts....if you wanted to change the actually shift pattern which i eventually will do u would want to go with a manual valvebody like a Lentech. You then would have a shift pattern as follows: 1=1 D=2 OD=3 and then you can flip a toggle switch with the selector in the OD positioin to have the transmission act like a normal AOD.

Ozz · Jun 19, 2006

It's great for consistancy, anyway. Some people don't race brackets and/or their cars aren't so fast as to require an auto, so it doesn't really make much of a difference.

Me, I have an AOD still. I'm afraid to do the 1D1 without letting off the gas a bit. Once the boost is there, the car is beastly.

Nopantz · Jun 19, 2006

is the shuffle actually faster than juss putting it in Drive and mashing the gas?

QUICK91LX · Jun 19, 2006

CAMAROEATER01 said:
is the shuffle actually faster than juss putting it in Drive and mashing the gas?

faster if you hit it right, but not more consistant...too many timing variables when shifting...for bracket racing, just leave it in drive...stab and steer

Foxfan88 · Jun 19, 2006

I used to run a stock AOD, swapped to t5, always hated and talked **** on the AOD, now i respect the AOD, they are pretty cool....

makes for a easy DD, just pop it in gear and go, and while not potent in stock form. A simple shift kit and stall works WONDERS. I have rode in my friends old AOD, had a stock engine, 3k stall and shift kit, 5lb SC with gears, it was pretty stout....

Sometimes i think of what it would it have been like if i still had my AOD, i wouldnt mind starting a small AOD build, if i had the money haha

kevin2m4 · Jun 19, 2006

can i try this in any car? or just a AOD ford?

smittyb · Jun 19, 2006

MUWHAHA!! AOD lovers rise and unite!!!
kevin I do know of a few chrysler cars that this will work in, but overall, I'd say a bad idea to just try in random vehicles. Hell, on second thought, try it on everything you got and let us know.

kevin2m4 · Jun 19, 2006

i got a new trans in my camaro. ill try it in my girlfriends Echo first.

90_Red_LX · Jun 19, 2006

I think the shuffle is just for the AOD tranny which tends to skip 2nd gear, someone correct me if I'm wrong though.

smittyb · Jun 19, 2006

Lots of cars go 1st Drive Overdrive theese days.

ill advised · Jun 19, 2006

90_Red_LX said:
Does the 1-D-1 shuffle still need to be performed after a shift kit install? Or does it correct the problem? Just curious because I don't own an AOD and any extra information I can absorb would be great.

No, you don't need the shuffle with a proper shift kit/VB because they adjust the shift points. The car will shift at around 5k (wot) like it should. Actually my Transgo makes the 2-3 a bit higher than I'd like it too (5500) but I'll take the trade-off. Of course, for a car that's making more power up top this is a good thing.

I finally had a chance to drive an AOD Mustang with a 2800 stall and damn. All of the testimonials I've read on this board are absolutely true. It's not like dropping a clutch at "excessive" rpms but that thing tore off the line any self-respecting 5.0 should. I'm glad I never got around to installing one on my car because I don't feel like having to upgrade my tires, among other things. lol

ill advised · Jun 19, 2006

90_Red_LX said:
I think the shuffle is just for the AOD tranny which tends to skip 2nd gear.

Pretty much. It doesn't literally skip the gear but it wastes no time upshifting out of it.

25thmustang · Jun 20, 2006

poneypower89 said:
A properly build AOD will outperform any T-5.. period.

I might beg to differ...

A proshifted T5 with 5th gear removed would give it a run for its money. If you have never driven one, you wouldnt know. The tranny only needs the clutch to get out of gear and even with that its merely tapping the clutch pedal. I would be willing to bet the same car with a built AOD and a proshifted T5, they run neck and neck.

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