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1" or 1 1/8" sway bar?

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CraigMBA

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Vintage:

You ever considered redoing your front a-arms to remove the anti dive and going up to the big boy springs that the Cobra Automotive guys use?

I forget you guys run on bias ply tires. There's a bunch of slip in those, and you're right. You have to slide it. I'm just saying you will really have to slide it with a sway bar. I watched Bobby Rahal run a car at Goodwood last year and the front five were totally sideways from the apex off on every turn. Radials ruin your perspective.
 

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rbohm said:
your suspension settup is just about perfect for racing. i would say a bit more rear roll stiffness and the car goes faster through the same corner. i know you dont like a rear bar, but in this instance perhaps a small one, say 1/2-5/8" would be about right to truely balance your suspension.
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Thanks for the input.

I believe going fast in these things is a matter of driver set up preference. I simply drive a loose car better than a tight car. Have tried a rear sway bar and it simply does not work for my style of driving.

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CraigMBA said:
Vintage:

You ever considered redoing your front a-arms to remove the anti dive and going up to the big boy springs that the Cobra Automotive guys use?

I forget you guys run on bias ply tires. There's a bunch of slip in those, and you're right. You have to slide it. I'm just saying you will really have to slide it with a sway bar. I watched Bobby Rahal run a car at Goodwood last year and the front five were totally sideways from the apex off on every turn. Radials ruin your perspective.
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Thanks, but I want to keep this car original. The only thing really modified from original are the fender lips. They are rolled.

We actually use the bias plys to help tune the front end plus the stiffer side walls help prevent front end roll over. Radials simply do not work at speed.

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Late models trying to eat my lunch.




This is my favorite as the car is really cranked over (in several different directions) getting absolutely everything possible out of the suspension as we are headed toward fifth gear and about 140 MPH down the back side of Watkins Glenn. I believe this is where they gave my car the name "Flexible Flyer"!

 

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HistoricMustang said:
Thanks for the input.

I believe going fast in these things is a matter of driver set up preference. I simply drive a loose car better than a tight car. Have tried a rear sway bar and it simply does not work for my style of driving.

HistoricMustang
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my thought is that you need a bit more rear roll stiffness, or a bit less front roll stiffness since you are starting to pick up inside front tire. the easiest way to do that is to use a small rear bar. a stiffer rear spring will also work.
 

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Max Power said:
I have the big bar and it is fine for the street. Can't compare, cause I never had the smaller bar.
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+1

EDIT: My car has worn front suspension with KYB Gas-a-Just shocks. The 1 1/8" front swaybar really tightened it up and made body roll nearly non-existent. The loosness still makes it sketchy in the turns, though, partly because the rear leaf springs are really sacked out and mushy. It feels like the rear end dances around under the car on bumpy turns.
 

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rbohm said:
my thought is that you need a bit more rear roll stiffness, or a bit less front roll stiffness since you are starting to pick up inside front tire. the easiest way to do that is to use a small rear bar. a stiffer rear spring will also work.
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Thanks for the input. I will play around with this a bit.

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66HertzClone said:
Actually it is a 1 1/4 bar, and you're right it looks great, so does the neat centerlink they also offer. I have the sway bar sitting right in front of my 66 waiting until I finish some other adjustments before bolting it in place. I installed the centerlink last week, it is also very nice, I filed off some rough edges and coated it with POR15 to match the other pieces already on the car. Here is a link to the bar and the centerlink, http://www.cobraautomotive.com/new%20products.htm
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So nice I just had to order one!
Boy, what a toy store....I'll have to get that centerlink too when fundage allows
That thing is gonna look huge compared to my pinky-thick stocker!
 
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