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1999 svt cobra speedo problums with 3.73's

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Hey guys i have a 1999 cobra with a 2001 cobra motor and trans. Just put 3.73 gears in it and my speedo was off. So i brought it to Ford and they changed the gear ratio and tire size for a 99 and tried 01. Speedo still off 10mph fast on highway. Any clues? its driving me crazy. Any clues?
 

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IIRC, the dealer techs should be able to re-flash the PCM to account for your new 3.73 gear (factory rear gear ratio in 99s and 01s was 3.27) - wonder why it's still off ? Maybe they didn't do it correctly? I'd take it back to the dealer and see if they can fix it.

If that doesn't work, it sounds like you'll need an aftermarket re-calibrator to correct the problem. You can often resolve this with one of the many handheld tuners out there on the market or a "speedcal" calibrator.

G'luck.
 
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yeah i brought it back twice. I'd like to take it to one more but i could buy a speed recal for what these guys are going to charge. I donno. Hopefully i find out here soon thanks bud
 

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In 1999, Ford switched from a VSS sensor to an OSS sensor. Along the way, Ford attempted to standardize accross their product line on the number of teeth on the OSS sensor. I do not know the exact years that the # of teeth were changed.

Is it possible that the number of teeth on the OSS sensor is different between the 1999 MY and 2001 MY? If so, this may account for the difference.

I recall reading posts where the differences in the number of teeth can be corrected with a custom tune.

However, it would seam to me that it would be possble to "lie" to the PCM about the true rear-end ratio (or tire height) and correct the # of teeth problem. To do this, it will be necessary to know EXACT how much the speedo is off. Just saying 10 MPH wont do it.

Determine how much the speedo is off at various constant MPH's. Or drive the car at a constant 60 MPH and time (with an accurate timer), how long it actually takes to drive a known mile. The expressway mile markers can be used.

Of course if you can find out how by how many teeth the OSS ring gear has changed, that would give the percentage as well.

Once you know the percentage the speedo is off, adjust the rear-end ratio by that amount. That will become the new ratio reported to the PCM.

You may have to consider having a custom tune done or buying your own SCT programmer. Note, I would not solve this problem with a Speedcal. For the cost of the Speedcal, you could almost buy an SCT. The SCT will provide valuable ODB2 information for years to follow.
 
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alright. Thanks alot i called ford today and they said thats as good as its going to get! i was like wtf. that cant be right. So i was planing on getting a tunner and trying that. I'll let you guys no how it works out. Once again thanks.
 
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