2011 V6s are gonna piss me off I know it

well a $450-$500 a month car payment is not going to happen > I don't care what kinda car it is > I can swing it and I have no plans ever of doing it > I'd much rather keep my (tired 63,000 miles) 98 cobra and put 3-4k in to a built 5.0 stroker motor and put a new SS or 2011 gt on it's ear than sit at home on the week-ends because I have to be a penny pincher or save to make my car payment . like most have said it's totally your choice but > hey mine's payed for and looks dam good sitting in my drive way and a Nitrous kit or supercharger is still cheap compared to a new cars cost

scupking said:

Terminators around this area are still going for 25-30k used.

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Hell yes!

the v6 STARTS at 305hp. they are nowhere near tapped out. larger throttle bodt, 4" cai, tune, x-pipe, long tubes, 7500rpm redline, pullies, you better figure 300rwhp from bolt-ons. they trow in gears. lights out. torque matters unless gearing is optimized. there are pleny of 96-98 cobra's running 12's with 4.30's. the v6 will be no different.

times change guys. get a v6 or coyote.



and what if the v6 guys get their heads ported and flow 355+ cfm like the coyote. and add a blower. 500rwhp if the internals can take it. i know the 3.5 ecoboost and 435rwhp.

9646gt said:

The sad part about the horsepower wars is it can only go so far. Eventually it will have to stop somewhere. soon you will buy a car on looks and handling because they will all have equal horsepower! I mean can you really see everyday street cars getting much over like 700-800hp from the factory? Modding them will become pointless!

The worst thing about the new engines is with the high compression the days of just throwing on a blower out of the box may be gone. And the new 5.0 basically has th same weak rods we do in the 4.6. So how far can you even push it past the stock horsepower rating?!

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the new motor makes 500 hp from low boost. funny everyone thinks forged cracked cap powdered metal rods HAVE to be weak. nobody thinks chevy LS rods are weak. they are the same metalurgy. the DESIGN limits of early modular rods only practically need to handle 300hp from 2v, and 400hp from 3v/4v. thats all they were designed to be safe.

design the same rod for 600hp and its does fine. read some metalurgy man. all of you need to.



the 500hp is shelby numbers and some whipple. i have heard 550 hp is safe with 7psi. thats 1.476 bar boost. or about 47 percent more airflow. 47percent more than whatever the intake tract can flow n/a. 412hp is about 37 lb-minute with the coyote's efficiency. 55lb-minute at boost. depending on VE and BSFC at boost we are talking well OVER 550hp. reduce VE from pulling timing and 550hp is totally believable.

coyote pistons have oil squirters. a lot of 4.6 blow ups are ring butting, and piston hot-spots. oil squirters eliminate that issue.


shelby is focusing on the supersnake and gt350 from now on. 500hp gt350 and 740hp supersnake. there is no need for a gt500 any more at only 550hp. a gt350 weighs far less and only has 50 less hp.



coyote heads also have revised cross flow cooling. no more hotspots in the chambers like the dreaded brow in 2v.

Gearbanger 101 said:

From what I've seen of the new V6, it doesn't look like you've got anything to be ashamed of. A lot of V6 powered cars (and even I4's) have been faster than many V8's for years. It seems that it’s just taken Ford a little while to catch up to the rest. I think if anything, we should be happy about this. Now we've not only got 2 choices for fast pony cars (The GT and Shelby) but a third with "spirited" performance is now an option that doesn't bust us right down to "econobox" status when doing so.

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Badass Cougar you got there I loved my 5.0 Cougar; I wish I still had it

Yes, the '11 V6 and V8 Mustangs are better in every way, but to some people a car payment really isn't worth it, especially to me. A trade in might help, but insurance will probably be high as well. All the same, the aftermarket is bigger for the earlier cars, and parts and info are more readily available- that counts for A LOT.

Well this is a depressing thread! LOL Seriously though, these new engines Ford is making are incredible!