Justin03GT said:
USED THE OLD SLEEVE!!!!!!
WHY??? they are cheap.. you can get away with not measuring but thats extreme3:73 Install??
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USED THE OLD SLEEVE!!!!!!
WHY??? they are cheap.. you can get away with not measuring but thats extreme
sgarlic said:
what? you dont think i did my gear install myself and did it fine without knowing how right off the bat? if you have 1/2 a brain you can pay attention to what you're doing and get it done fairly easily..i dont see why people make such a huge deal out of doing it...if 1/2 the people who say its so hard actually tried it themselves they'd realize it isnt all the make it up to be
Justin03GT said:what? you dont think i did my gear install myself and did it fine without knowing how right off the bat? if you have 1/2 a brain you can pay attention to what you're doing and get it done fairly easily..i dont see why people make such a huge deal out of doing it...if 1/2 the people who say its so hard actually tried it themselves they'd realize it isnt all the make it up to be
It just seems unlikely especially since you claim to have reused the crush sleeve...
hognutz
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anybody can do gears as long as you are patient. backlash is a mechanical number. you use a dial indicator and you shim till it is correct. if it is not correct it is not correct.
the wear pattern is the same way if it is wrong it is wrong.
preload you only need an inch pound torque wrench to verify that. you need x-amount of rotating torque to achive preload.
now that being said if you don't have patience and want it now pay somebody. I have 3 cars so why pay someone more than I make to do something that requires time.
I would not re-use a crush sleave. they are not expensive there is no point IMO.
the main thing is read, read, read before you tackle it. Anybody who will tell you not to do it is proably just kind of afraid to work on things. On the flip side this is not the kind of job you can just hack together. If things are wrong you will get noise or premature failure bottom line.
I have come to think in the new generation people are just aftraid to work on cars a bit. if it is not a CAI or underdrive pullies someone will chime in how you can't do it yourslef which is just BS.
the wear pattern is the same way if it is wrong it is wrong.
preload you only need an inch pound torque wrench to verify that. you need x-amount of rotating torque to achive preload.
now that being said if you don't have patience and want it now pay somebody. I have 3 cars so why pay someone more than I make to do something that requires time.
I would not re-use a crush sleave. they are not expensive there is no point IMO.
the main thing is read, read, read before you tackle it. Anybody who will tell you not to do it is proably just kind of afraid to work on things. On the flip side this is not the kind of job you can just hack together. If things are wrong you will get noise or premature failure bottom line.
I have come to think in the new generation people are just aftraid to work on cars a bit. if it is not a CAI or underdrive pullies someone will chime in how you can't do it yourslef which is just BS.
hognutz
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the98stang
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Kilgore Trout said:
I don't think NASA has a "magnetic base dial indicator"
Sorry lol...sounded so techniqal
he probally reused the sleeve because he did not know better. to be honest many many of you guys that have gears installed by other probally have unmeasured gears. 99 percent of techs reuse the old shims.
justin. next time you do gear get some new crush slevees
justin. next time you do gear get some new crush slevees
BlackenedSVT
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Justin03GT said:
I'm hoping you torqued those axel fitting nuts back on to their proper setting? I'm hoping you did anyway or you might be having some problems down the road.
i re-used the crush sleave under advice from a guy who has been building cars for more years than i have been alive- my grandfather...he has built and restored probably 50 mustangs since he started working on cars and i trust his advice...i did use an in/lb torque wrench to set the pre-load and thats it...like hognutz said, patience is key and dont be afraid to do some work... the gears have been in for almost 12k miles and all of those miles i have been spraying n20 as well, they still don't whine and removed the differential cover last week to clean it up and fix the slow drip leak i had from it and everything look good inside, the gear oil wasnt ugly and there wasnt any metal shavings anywhere, so i'd be willing to bet everything is fine.
hognutz
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The only down side of re-suing a crush sleave would just be if the preload were to change because the crush sleave was used. If it does not you will be fine plain and simple.%2
03ghoststang
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soon i'll be doing a gear, bearing, and LSD swap i'll try and take as many pics as i can and do a thread on it 
03ghoststang
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Kilgore Trout said:Great news, the existing gear installs out there are pretty weak...
yeah this will be on my 91' 5.0L
Kilgore Trout said:Great news, the existing gear installs out there are pretty weak...
http://home.flash.net/~ivc1/cobra/solgear.html
http://www.corral.net/tech/drivetrain/gears.html
http://www.angelfire.com/theforce/5ohcpa/cpa5ohtech001.htm
hognutz
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yeah there are some issues I rean into.
1. getting the abs rings off for an axle swap.
2. the ford carrier shims are a bit different than I am used to. thick cast iron and expensive.
3. no pinion depth on the ring and pinion for some reason.
I think I may post a bit of a redneck/poormans tutorial on some of this stuff when I finish up. there is not that good of advice about some of it. there are some little tricks you learn that make it go fast. People will tell you have to use a press or puller sometimes when it is just not needed. Like I was told it was hard to get the abs rings on becasue they break or you need a press to do it. funny how two blocks of wood, a rubber mallet and something to craddle the ring (bearing slippter in my case) worked perfect. Now I am sure the wrong approach would have jacked up the gears though.
1. getting the abs rings off for an axle swap.
2. the ford carrier shims are a bit different than I am used to. thick cast iron and expensive.
3. no pinion depth on the ring and pinion for some reason.
I think I may post a bit of a redneck/poormans tutorial on some of this stuff when I finish up. there is not that good of advice about some of it. there are some little tricks you learn that make it go fast. People will tell you have to use a press or puller sometimes when it is just not needed. Like I was told it was hard to get the abs rings on becasue they break or you need a press to do it. funny how two blocks of wood, a rubber mallet and something to craddle the ring (bearing slippter in my case) worked perfect. Now I am sure the wrong approach would have jacked up the gears though.
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