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300ZX Hydraulic Clutch

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CraigMBA

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I sincerely think it'd clear fine if you can get the headers around the bellhousing.
 
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Well from what I can gather, the cable will clear but barely and thats with it weaving through the tubes. And it'd be recommended to run it with heat shielding and even then...

With those headaches, I'm gonna go with a Hydraulic setup. I can put one together using CNC components for about $150, thats cheaper than a cable setup anyway...
 
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Shakin66 said:
I went with the Mcload hyd. T/o bearing because ofthe limited space I have since I have a T56 and while I love the pedal feel it just got put back together (150 miles) since the pedal stop allowed for too much travel. Also the fluid is not Hyd. fluid but is actually brake fluid...Much easier on the friction plate.
I hope that is will finally allow me to drive the car with the new Dart heads!
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Brake fluid IS hydraulic fluid.
 
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mikethebike

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CraigMBA said:
First off, sprint cars (world of outlaws) don't have clutches. They don't even have starters.

Second, the McCloud TO bearing has some "issues". My customer did a six speed swap in his 351c powered cleveland, and used one. He's driven the car less than 3000 miles and had it out no less than five times becasue it leaks.

If you use a hydro style TO bearing, I'd highly suggest getting something OE and late model like off a '06 or newer Mustang.
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I was at TITAN racing this morning and inquired as to how many bearing failures they have had and the answer was...NONE...and they have been running these since they first appeared. And just so you will know David Pearson has raced out of this shop and the late Tim Richmond raced out of the same shop.
I think I'll call Bud Moore tomorrow and see what he says.
But I think he will agree and to tell you the truth, I trust them more than some on this forum.
 

CraigMBA

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I know one guy who has a McCloud TO. I don't know anything about Titan.

To their credit, McCloud has repaired it everytime he's busted it. It just pukes it's guts and stops working. It would contaminate the clutch disc if he drove it. He's had his T56 in and out five times in 3,000 miles.

You want me to take pictures of the mess next time he busts it?

I'm not saying that all hydra TO's are junk. I'm certain they aren't. But the ONE McCloud unit I've seen in the field has issues. Issues enough I bought a cable. I got enough drama.
 

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WHAT said:
No. It offends us crackers.
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mikethebike

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ultrastang said:
No. It offends us crackers.
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Might I extend my heartfelt apologies to all the honky, white men can't jump, patty headed, red neck crackers out there.
 
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mikethebike

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mikethebike said:
Might I extend my heartfelt apologies to all the honky, white men can't jump, patty headed, red neck crackers out there.
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JUST what I thought, I can call a white guy every lilly ****e came from negro land insult in the book and nobody will censure it but if I call Jesse Jackson a racist ****** it won't get posted.
 

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BlwnGazkit said:
Yeah a Clutch MC is $45 and the Slave Cylinder is $15.... Doesn't get much cheaper than that.

PLUS, they are stocked parts at many autoparts stores so if it needs to be replaced you don't have to source it from the internet.
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Wow that's dirt cheap!!
 

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I used CNC components to make my hydraulic clutch setup. Ran the line myself. Easy, cheap and very reliable.
 
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BlwnGazkit

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jikelly said:
I used CNC components to make my hydraulic clutch setup. Ran the line myself. Easy, cheap and very reliable.
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The stuff looks the same as the Wilwood components that are comparable to CNC stuff. Only thing is, where most use a Master cylinder with a remote reservoir, the 300zx MC has it attached so I'm not sure it'll fit. I'll need to check, or maybe look at some other vehicle's MC.

It's not that I don't want to use CNC stuff, it's just that if possible I would prefer to find something OEM that would be stocked at a parts store if I ever needed to find a replacement quick.
 
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On the other hand though, does anyone have a good source for CNC brand components?
 
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The JMC masters look like (are) CNC but have been modified so the mounting bracket is angled so the clevised rod from your pedal doesn't bind. That is why they are more expensive than what looks like a regular CNC master.
Of course, you could always cut off the CNC bracket and weld a new one on at the correct angle or re-engineer how the rod attaches to your clutch pedal.
 

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An update on my customer who kept puking his McClod hydualic TO.

He took it apart again and swapped the engine into another car. The scattershield and the trans adaptor apparently had an interference problem that would intermittantly let the TO hang up on the adaptor and thus bind it up. He got lucky when he took it apart this time it was still jammed in the "bound" postion so he could see it. Once the unit got bound up it didn't have any choice but to fail.

About 20 seconds with the diegrinder would have fixed it, but my customer is installing a '03 Cobra engine he scored. He was relieved that he figured out what the problem was and let me know so I'm letting you guys know.

If you use a trans adaptor and a scattersheld, check your clearences real carefully.
 
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mikethebike

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CraigMBA said:
An update on my customer who kept puking his McClod hydualic TO.

He took it apart again and swapped the engine into another car. The scattershield and the trans adaptor apparently had an interference problem that would intermittantly let the TO hang up on the adaptor and thus bind it up. He got lucky when he took it apart this time it was still jammed in the "bound" postion so he could see it. Once the unit got bound up it didn't have any choice but to fail.

About 20 seconds with the diegrinder would have fixed it, but my customer is installing a '03 Cobra engine he scored. He was relieved that he figured out what the problem was and let me know so I'm letting you guys know.

If you use a trans adaptor and a scattersheld, check your clearences real carefully.
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Didn't McCloud replace that release bearing multiple times under warrenty? That says a ton of good things about their service philosophy.
 

CraigMBA

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They rebuilt it.

We're about five minutes from them.

Their service is top notch, their products very good.

A little technical assistance on thier scattershield would of saved everyone a bunch of trouble.
 
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