331 stroker with 2.1 KB has anyone fabed IC

Stangstroke · Mar 30, 2011

I have a 1994 Mustang GT with a 331 stroker (L&R engine rebuilder) with all forged internals and main girdle brace the KB is a 2.1 flowzilla set up, AFR 185's, Gt lower intake, BBK 75mm TB, BBK long tubes, JLT cold air, 42lb bosch injectors, KB boost pump, 255 LPH fuel pump so has anyone with any kind of success built a intercooler and what challenges did you encounter and what kind of horsepower can i expect?

BlackVert · Mar 30, 2011

where would you put an intercooler with a kenne-bell? the compressor is sitting directly on top of the lower intake.

toyman · Mar 30, 2011

You might check this link from the corral http://forums.corral.net/forums/sup...-bell-fox-air-air-intercooler-build-list.html

revhead347 · Mar 30, 2011

The Eaton roots blowers have air to water to air intercoolers under the blower. Not sure how it works on the KBs, but I'm sure you can set it up the same.

Kurt

Stangstroke · Mar 30, 2011

I've heard some guys have done a air to air intercooler on the Kenne Bell

Stangstroke · Mar 31, 2011

Thanks Toyman for the link to the website about the A2A set up looks like a cool but costly venture to get that set up to work anyone have any thoughts on what the cost would be. Still looking for some hp #'s on a set up like that unfortunately that guy didn't post any hp numbers.

Zero Signal · Mar 31, 2011

I don't get that external IC setup at all. How the hell does that work?? Anyway, the most common cooling solution for KB cars that I've seen is meth injection or a small shot of nitrous.

Noobz347 · Mar 31, 2011

toyman said:
You might check this link from the corral DIY Kenne Bell Fox air to air intercooler build list. - Ford Mustang Forums : Corral.net Mustang Forum

I've seen that one before... Man, I wish I had the time and talent.

Stangstroke · Mar 31, 2011

I'm currently having Adam from ST motorsports in Fontana California look into fabricating a system for me. My set up for all the money I spent to get to this stage only netted me an extra 65rwhp over a stock motor as the intake temps are to high to see any real gains.

Noobz347 · Mar 31, 2011

Damn... how many lbs of boost?

BlackVert · Apr 1, 2011

Zero Signal said:
I don't get that external IC setup at all. How the hell does that work?? Anyway, the most common cooling solution for KB cars that I've seen is meth injection or a small shot of nitrous.

i saw that thread years ago when i had a KB on mine. they blocked off the discharge from the blower and bored a new discharge, then they ran piping through the intercooler and came back in on the other side of what they blocked off.

way too much work.

meth injection is a much better option, in my opinion.

Stangstroke · Apr 3, 2011

Noobz347 said:
Damn... how many lbs of boost?

Kenne Bell on a stock motor with 6-7 psi got me about 300rwhp and after all the engine work 365rwhp

Stangstroke · Apr 3, 2011

Noobz347 said:
I've seen that one before... Man, I wish I had the time and talent.

Soon you'll be able to buy the set up I'll give you the info when I'm done here's some pics of the progress

Stangstroke · Apr 8, 2011

I will be starting the car this weekend with the new air to air intercooler!!!!

revhead347 · Apr 8, 2011

I think it's just easier to sell the KB, and then buy a Centrifugal kit with an intercooler.

Kurt

Stangstroke · Apr 8, 2011

revhead347 said:
I think it's just easier to sell the KB, and then buy a Centrifugal kit with an intercooler.

Kurt

Not at this stage I'm "bleep" deep into this now the Kenne Bell is lots of fun and i like the power it makes i know now that it would have been a lot cheaper to just buy a centrifugal SC with the intercooler but there's something about the KB that i like better it just has power every where especially down low out of the hole. The air to air will make a huge difference on my car.

Noobz347 · Apr 8, 2011

Questions:

What size are those inlet outlet tubes?
What size is the aftercooler?
Do the 2.1L and 2.2L blower housings share the same external housing dimensions?
Are you running the larger Flowzilla/Blowzilla inlet?
What size throttle body and MAF do you run?

revhead347 · Apr 8, 2011

Stangstroke said:
Not at this stage I'm "bleep" deep into this now the Kenne Bell is lots of fun and i like the power it makes i know now that it would have been a lot cheaper to just buy a centrifugal SC with the intercooler but there's something about the KB that i like better it just has power every where especially down low out of the hole. The air to air will make a huge difference on my car.

I guess if you are deep into it, then I would recommend just doing the chemical intercooler.

Kurt

Stangstroke · Apr 8, 2011

Noobz347 said:
Questions:

What size are those inlet outlet tubes?
What size is the aftercooler?
Do the 2.1L and 2.2L blower housings share the same external housing dimensions?
Are you running the larger Flowzilla/Blowzilla inlet?
What size throttle body and MAF do you run?

1.The inlet and outlet tubes are 3"
2.The intercooler looks like around 30"X18"X3" it almost spans the distance between the bumper supports.
3.Yes as far as i know they have the same internals.
4. Flowzilla
5. 75mm BBK TB and a JLT cold air with a 90mm MAF

BlackVert · Apr 9, 2011

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