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ratio411

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mo'factor said:
In 1967, Mustangs came stock with 390s, 427s, and 428s. The 460 is the same block, so it should fit. The parts should be available at your favorite mustang supplier.
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The first 3 engines you list are FE big blocks.
The 429 and 460 are '385 series' or 'Lima blocks'.

The Limas are substantially bulkier engines.
They squeeze in where an FE was, but don't use any of the same parts.
 
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mo'factor said:
In 1967, Mustangs came stock with 390s, 427s, and 428s. The 460 is the same block, so it should fit. The parts should be available at your favorite mustang supplier.
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No. Not the same. If you see an FE and a 385 side by side....it seems like you are comparing a Fox body 302 to a newer 4V 4.6L.
 

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My engine was designed for all street RPMs, I gains Max power by 5500 RPMs. It's a stock 429 SCJ with the exception of the cam and roller lifters and rockers. It put out about 520HP and 550lbs of torque. It's not a high RPM engine. It's a low end torque monster. FPA had a reason for the shorties, I forget, I asked him about it. I think it's a fitment issue. Call him and talk to him.
 
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68GT500KR_Vert said:
My engine was designed for all street RPMs, I gains Max power by 5500 RPMs. It's a stock 429 SCJ with the exception of the cam and roller lifters and rockers. It put out about 520HP and 550lbs of torque. It's not a high RPM engine. It's a low end torque monster. FPA had a reason for the shorties, I forget, I asked him about it. I think it's a fitment issue. Call him and talk to him.
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That's pretty stout. what compression? what heads?
 

ratio411

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68GT500KR_Vert said:
My engine was designed for all street RPMs, I gains Max power by 5500 RPMs. It's a stock 429 SCJ with the exception of the cam and roller lifters and rockers. It put out about 520HP and 550lbs of torque. It's not a high RPM engine. It's a low end torque monster. FPA had a reason for the shorties, I forget, I asked him about it. I think it's a fitment issue. Call him and talk to him.
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Yeah, that's why I say things like shorty headers and single plane intakes don't hurt a thing on such a big engine.

They are considered high rpm parts for the most part, but those BBFs make so much torque that it doesn't phase them. If anything it helps by softening wheel spin and drivetrain shock.
 

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lauras70mach1 said:
That's pretty stout. what compression? what heads?
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It's a stock 429 SCJ motor, with the orignal SCJ D0OR heads. I like the compression is around 10-11:1.

Btw: my dyno run used 87 octane. It's stil a street motor and had no detonation.
 
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engine

I didn't know the 460 and 390, 427,and 428 were different blocks. I'm sorry.
 

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is that rearwheel hp or flywheel hp? what year is the engine? stock cam? those are awesome numbers id be happy with!
 

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mo'factor said:
I didn't know the 460 and 390, 427,and 428 were different blocks. I'm sorry.
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I think everyone here learns something new everyday.
This is what you learned.
I learned on another forum that the 240 I6 was a truck engine and spawned the 300 I6.
It wasn't what I wanted to hear, but I learned something.
I was always under the impression that the 240 was just another I6 used in Stangs and Falcons.
 
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mo'factor said:
I didn't know the 460 and 390, 427,and 428 were different blocks. I'm sorry.
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Nothing to be sorry about. Lots of people make that mistake. Everyone knows about 289-302s and 351s...but after that is like mythology and tribal legends.
 
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mine is:

372 rwhp
490ftlb (at the wheels).

Not much stock on mine except block, heads, and exhaust manifolds.
 
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67GTA-FB429 said:
Nothing to be sorry about. Lots of people make that mistake. Everyone knows about 289-302s and 351s...but after that is like mythology and tribal legends.
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I once read that when they designed the 429/460 (385 Series) Ford copied the Big Block Chev.

Mine's a Thunderjet block with CJ heads, 11:1 forged pistons, Mech. roller cam and 750 Demon.

Here's a vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iUbIJ0Bmts
 

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wow that sounds awesome thats what I want! What cam are you using how much hp do you think your making? with 11:1 can you use pump gas or do you have to use race fuel?
 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFSv53n_QmE

Mine
 

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my 532 has the cam that comes with the 514 ford crate motor. i think its .588 intake and .614 exhaust. I am not sure what heads to put on it yet. Either the Cobra jets or some eldrbrock
 
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