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from doin some research about a coyote swap it doesnt look like there is a intake out there for a carburated set-up.it would be so much easier and cheaper to do.is it even possible with the varaible cam timing in those motors.just saying would love to have one in my fox.
 

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sspnotcback said:
from doin some research about a coyote swap it doesnt look like there is a intake out there for a carburated set-up.it would be so much easier and cheaper to do.is it even possible with the varaible cam timing in those motors.just saying would love to have one in my fox.
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I actually did see one with a carb setup on stangtv. I wasn't really paying attention to give you any details. Sorry. But it is out there
 

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sspnotcback said:
from doin some research about a coyote swap it doesnt look like there is a intake out there for a carburated set-up.it would be so much easier and cheaper to do.is it even possible with the varaible cam timing in those motors.just saying would love to have one in my fox.
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I believe there is one somewhere. But take my .02 on it. I just did it for a friend the thread is on here. The 1500 dollar control pack is worth it and the car runs flawless.
 

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One of the awesome things about the new 5.0 is the power output it makes, and the drivability for that power level. I believe a lot of that is going to be due to the electronics.

Joe
 
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One of the awesome things about the new 5.0 is the power output it makes, and the drivability for that power level. I believe a lot of that is going to be due to the electronics.

Joe
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100 percent , this thing literally can have the key bumped in 38 degree weather and starts like a 13 gt
 

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IMO if you are going through the expense , time, and effort to do a coyote swap, it is foolish to try and run a carb. Just build a carbed 408 windsor for 1/2 the price,
 
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IMO if you are going through the expense , time, and effort to do a coyote swap, it is foolish to try and run a carb. Just build a carbed 408 windsor for 1/2 the price,
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Ah a 408 makes me feel warm inside . that's my dream just fuel injected for my coupe
 

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Had a chance to drive a '14 today with 6spd. I now understand how this swap can be so desirable lol. Why buy a $36k car when you can swap one into a 4cyl fox so much cheaper.
 
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Ah a 408 makes me feel warm inside . that's my dream just fuel injected for my coupe
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i know huh.i already have a fuel injected 351w in her now.runs good but ijust want more.im also thinking about the 408 or 427 (the big bore block 4.125x4.00).
 
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also just wondering as to what cfm the heads flow on those new coyote motors.being that they are so strong for a 5.0L
 

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Had a chance to drive a '14 today with 6spd. I now understand how this swap can be so desirable lol. Why buy a $36k car when you can swap one into a 4cyl fox so much cheaper.
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yup and that power in 1000lb lighter car
 

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also just wondering as to what cfm the heads flow on those new coyote motors.being that they are so strong for a 5.0L
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I read an article somewhere that claimed the old 4 valve heads, like on the 03-04 Cobras, flowed a little over 300cfm. I' also read literature where Ford claims the coyote heads outflow any other 4 valve head, but I have seen no flow numbers.

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Had a chance to drive a '14 today with 6spd. I now understand how this swap can be so desirable lol. Why buy a $36k car when you can swap one into a 4cyl fox so much cheaper.
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By the time you are done paying for the parts alone on a coyote swap you could make quite a few payments on that on that 14 gt.

I like the coyote and the newer gt's, but for the power and cost i just don't see it as the best swap engine.

A while back i added up the necessary parts list, and it was like 15 grand. That doesn't included necessary suspension changes.

That much cash for 400hp isn't exactly a bargain.
 

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11,5 with no power steering . the we had the k member control arms and coil overs already from when it had the BBC in it
 

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They came out with that Coyote swap kit the year after I put my last stroker engine in. I seriously missed out. It's definitely the way to go. I think if I was able to sell my heads it would have cost the same. I like the engine, but I don't like the new Mustangs.

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As much as I love it like I said I still either want to do. a 347 or 408 the other money can go else where on the car 5 lug , TRANS etc
 

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Besides the cool factor, 15k for 400hp doesn't do it for me.
 

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To me, the wow of the coyote is the drivability and fuel mileage with 412HP. Plus, it's just a starting point. You can still port heads, add cams and add boost. If you build this engine like we do our sbf's, 800 streetable HP is a breeze.

Now, is it cost effective? Afraid not...

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I'd do it, sell my truck and drive the Mustang everyday. It's over 500hp with some bolt ons.

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While 500hp is possible with bolt ons, the price is astronomical. Heads, cams intake, tune, gaskets to get to 500hp is like $5000 worth of parts. Then you have the fact that it may not be a good project for someone that is used to wrenching on their pushrod engine. Most would be better off skipping straight to the supercharger, which again is $5500+.

It's a great engine, but is much better financially in the car it comes in.
 
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