5.0 stroker kit...any need to modify the stock block?

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lukerat

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4.6 to 5.0 stroker kit...any need to modify the stock block?

Ive been doing alot of research lately as far as engine combos go, and so far ive thought of 32v swap, dss longblock crate, and now i have a new idea to add to my options: keep the stock block, get a stroker kit (5.0 from dss, forged), more aggressive cams, heads, chip, headers, the works. Of course, this brings up new questions. For starters, will I have to modify the block at all? MM&FF has that project gt with 600+ hp on the stock block, so i am not sure that a stronger block would be required, and that I could retain the old stuff, and save some cash. It would also help me get closer to that kb sc'er im drooling over.... Opinions?

 

maddogg545

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I would just get a beefed up short block. This way you are set when you are rready to throw that KB on and not be afraid to tune it up.

 

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i dont believe the stock block has to be modified. i would personally go with a big bore over a stroker kit. the big bore unshrouds the valves, and the stroke on the 4.6 is already really long, 3.55".

 

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well, i can install the stroker kit myself, as long as there is no machining needed to be done on the block. I think the stock block could hold up to all i want to give it (im thinking no more than 600 hp, correct me if im wrong or if anyone has any experience with cracking a stock block) i did not want to have to have the block machined, if i was going to do that i would just buy the short block. i would just get 4.6 forged internals,. but i would like to upgrade to 5.0. hell everyone always asks "that got a 5.0 in it?" It would be kindof cool to be able to say yes for once. If not for wanting the little upgrade (i do not know how much better the 5.0 stroke would make the engine) i would just get the 4.6 forged internals.

 

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anyone have the dss 4.6 to 5.0 stroker kit?

 

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i'm pretty sure that, in order to get an extra .4L, you have to bore the cylinders as well as stroke it. most of the 5.0 mod stroker shortblocks i've seen have a .020" overbore. go with a built shortblock stroker if you want the extra displacement.

 

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The stock block will work fine.

 

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hey screwed, you still using the stock block?

 

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lukerat said:

hey screwed, you still using the stock block?

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Stock block, but with forged internals.

 

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lukerat

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that stroker kit is the forged internals, right? That seems to be the way i wanna go...and now that i look at your sig that is kind of what i had in mind. stock block, stroked 2v (forged internals) and kb blower...

 

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oh, and of course different heads, etc. I am still looking up info on that area...

 

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how will boreing it out to 5.0 effect the cars computer? will that type of mod mess with the computer(check engine light)? how about passing emissions, will boreing it out make you fail? or does it not make a difference?

 

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All that depends heavily upon the tune.

 

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Pitch Black

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X2C Motorsports has a sweet little 331 shortblock stroker kit for the 4.6L for $1800

 

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Pitch Black said:

X2C Motorsports has a sweet little 331 shortblock stroker kit for the 4.6L for $1800

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They do? Post a link to it. The only thing I see is a 5.0 to 331 stroker.

 

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Pitch Black

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Oh wait, I guess it could be a 302 to 331. Let me make sure....

Hmmm, it doesn't say whether it's for a 5.0 but X2C deals primarily with the Mod motors so I don't see why they would have parts for a 5.0

http://www.x2cmotorsports.com/cart/shopper.exe?preadd=true&key=127

 

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Pitch Black said:

Oh wait, I guess it could be a 302 to 331. Let me make sure....

Hmmm, it doesn't say whether it's for a 5.0 but X2C deals primarily with the Mod motors so I don't see why they would have parts for a 5.0

http://www.x2cmotorsports.com/cart/shopper.exe?preadd=true&key=127

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NEW FORD 302 block

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looks like it's for the 5.0 to me

 

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Its a whole new block so maybe its not really "for" the 4.6 or 5.0L ....its an entirely new engine that uses your OHC heads and accessories