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5.4 3v update

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  • Start date Start date Nov 20, 2005

billfisher

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95% finished

sorry guys, i said the stock hood fits. well, it doesn't, but not by much.
i had to make a 3/4" plate to raise the TB . it doesn't clear the manifold.
it was enough to set it over the top. so i will purchase a 2.5" cobra "R" hood. i really thought it was going to clear it. oh well. i tried to make it a sleeper.

this was not really that bad a fit.

instructions to get it in are long.
all hoses need to be made.
wiring harness needs to be modified slightly
oil pan and pick up need to be changed/modified
custom headers/exhaust
air conditioner line need to be moved.
fuel rails/lines need to be made. (for 99-04 just longer line from pump)
for 96-98 brackets for ignition coils/oil reservoir for pump need to be made.
adapter from 78mm intake to 96-04 upper intake fab.
3/4" spacer for upper intake fab.
pin wheel for TDC#1 modified on passenger side intead of driver's side.
block inlet for EGR.
use all sensors and connections from 4.6

exact header fab is for sale. very expensive and time consuming to make.
i am going to make and patent this kit. exact prices in the future. i am going to continue to try designs to get this under stock hood. low profile TB/elbow is in the works.

let you guy know when i get it started. details are all that is left.

lower water hose
probably need a two core radiator. gonna put two tranny coolers to reduce the btu load on it. it is labeled to use on 302. 330 is at least close.
oil feed hose for brakes/steering
connect leed to starter.
lengthen TDC cam leads
lengthen IAbypass control leads
ground it
flywheel/converter nuts.
fuel rail bracket fab
start it.
 

timeless2

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Great work, Bill. Let's just hope she cranks over before New Years.
I'd love to see pictures when you are done, and if you have any during the middle of this.
 

tomustang

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we need a vid
 

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365 of torque is gonna feel mighty nice to ya
 

billfisher

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shooting for 400/400. my guess is the torque will be greater with the cmcc plates removed, and the high flow headers/exhaust. i may need to experiment with the exhaust length to balance torque with HP. i don't want to go too far either way. also adjustable FPRegulator will allow me to optimize power. the long runner intake is on there for now. i am going to switch to the short runner later. even when i finish and run it for a while, i need to get the heads cnc ported. i'm going to wait until more shops have done the kind of engineering that 2v/4v heads have. it is too early to make a change now, only to have someone find more flow later. 5500 rpm max is way too low. forged bottom end after i can figure out what this motor likes. other manufacturers' 3v motors (mitsubishi etc.) make HP from torque. NOTHING out torques 3v. this is why the 4.6 3v make so much torque for it's displacement. magazines are suprised at the torque figures 4.63v makes. not me. it can never out HP 4v, but it WILL out torque it to the threshhold where 4v breathing on exhaust side takes over. you cannot compare the exhaust side on these 3v's to 2v. it is canted toward the exhaust flow. with racing style "D" ports, it can get reasonable flow. anyway, i mention this because the way to HP with 3v is through torque. i may not have to turn the hell out of it to make it.
 
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