5 lug conversion questions?

DirtyD916 · Dec 30, 2004

v8only said:
that link didn't turn up anything.

problem with the 50 resto kit, is it has EXTREMELY limited wheel options. the hub is too big for most of the sn95 wheels such as the bullits, and it's essentially NOT a brake upgrade. ALL it is is lincoln rotors, and aerostar rear axleshafts. Why in hell would you want to pay that much when you could piece it together at the yards for 1/4th the cost?? The better option is the sn95 front brakes. the best years are 94/95, as it won't push your wheels out at all. I payed $75 a side at a wrecking yard. use two aerostar pass rear axles for your 5 lug in back, and bronco 2 or ranger 9 inch drums. the aerostars have ten inch drums, and you can upgrade to the bigger drums if you grab the backing plates too.

i just got off the phone with 50resto about the 5 lug kit and they said that the rear brakes are fine and will fit almost all wheels. He said that real drums dotn have any clearance issues with any stang wheels. He just said that its the front that has the clearance issue. He said that the front grease caps are just to wide for most wheels to fit. He gave me the option of using a hammer and or grinder to slim it down and said he used that method and it worked fine for him.

DirtyD916 · Dec 30, 2004

also how hard is it to do the sn95 swap in the front? Is it a lot of work to replace the master cylinder with a larger one? DO the balljoints, spindles, and rotors and ect swap out pretty easily?
I jsut think that replacing the master cylinder and brake lines and everything is going to get me over my head.

trbkrb · Dec 30, 2004

Basically you need to decide, do you want better brakes and a setup that looks and performs like "factory" or do you just want to get the 5 lug wheels put on the car any way you can. Then you can determine the way to go.

Swapping the parts is not that hard. You can do it all with just replacing the parts and using fittings instead of new brake lines. All the parts are basically direct fits, with the exception of the SN95 booster if you decide to use it instead of the Fox one.

The 5 lug conversion was my first modification on my car, and while it did take some time to get it all together, it was not a bad install. Took me a weekend for the fronts with a complete steering replacement and struts and the brake parts, and a weekend for the rear disc setup.

READ Matt's website Mavrick posted above and there are several others that outline the steps in the conversion. Read it until you memorize it and it will be easy to do! LOL!

As far as the MPS "kits", the 99+ base model dual piston calipers can be found at salvage yards all around starting at less than $20 each through www.car-part.com ! My local yard charges $19.95 plus $5 core, $25-35 for each spindle and hub, and like $10-15 per rotor. I found many yards all over the country with very similar prices. Anyone that wants to take the time to find the parts can easily put together the same basic kit for about half of what MPS is charging. You are paying them for the convenience.

Good luck on whatever you choose to do!

mustangjoe87 · Dec 31, 2004

MPS has alot of ebay auctions too their username is used-mustang-parts i won all of my front stuff for $138 compared to the $400 they charge on their website.

notsoswwuyd · Dec 31, 2004

trbkrb said:
Basically you need to decide, do you want better brakes and a setup that looks and performs like "factory" or do you just want to get the 5 lug wheels put on the car any way you can. Then you can determine the way to go.

Swapping the parts is not that hard. You can do it all with just replacing the parts and using fittings instead of new brake lines. All the parts are basically direct fits, with the exception of the SN95 booster if you decide to use it instead of the Fox one.

The 5 lug conversion was my first modification on my car, and while it did take some time to get it all together, it was not a bad install. Took me a weekend for the fronts with a complete steering replacement and struts and the brake parts, and a weekend for the rear disc setup.

READ Matt's website Mavrick posted above and there are several others that outline the steps in the conversion. Read it until you memorize it and it will be easy to do! LOL!

As far as the MPS "kits", the 99+ base model dual piston calipers can be found at salvage yards all around starting at less than $20 each through www.car-part.com ! My local yard charges $19.95 plus $5 core, $25-35 for each spindle and hub, and like $10-15 per rotor. I found many yards all over the country with very similar prices. Anyone that wants to take the time to find the parts can easily put together the same basic kit for about half of what MPS is charging. You are paying them for the convenience.

Good luck on whatever you choose to do!

So I could get the 95 stuff and upgrade to the dual pistons cals off a 99+, just a strait swap. What makes the booster a hard swap? and is the master cylinder a direct swap? Also what all did you do to your brakes ie. master cylinder brake booster, lines and fittings. And finialy what parts did you use todo the 5 lug swap, are you happy with it, anything you would change/do different.

Thank you for your time!!

trbkrb · Dec 31, 2004

notsoswwuyd said:
So I could get the 95 stuff and upgrade to the dual pistons cals off a 99+, just a strait swap. What makes the booster a hard swap? and is the master cylinder a direct swap? Also what all did you do to your brakes ie. master cylinder brake booster, lines and fittings. And finialy what parts did you use todo the 5 lug swap, are you happy with it, anything you would change/do different.

Thank you for your time!!

You have to grind the 94-95 spindles a small bit to give enough room for the 99+ calipers. Not a lot, but it needs to be done. The info is posted on Matt's website. The SN95 booster is larger than the Fox one and will not slip right in. You have to slot the mounting holes on the firewall and sometimes even "bash" the shock tower to give you enough room. But I used my stock Fox one, and it was OK with the PBRs. A bit hard on fast stops, but not too hard.

Matt Bobbitt, the guy that put together all the brake info in the website I said to read, also sells the fittings you will need to mount the brake lines to the SN95 MC without replacing or reflaring them. The Fox MC has 3 lines and the SN95 has two, so this fittings combine the two front lines into one for the newer MC.

I used the parts in my sig, and just this week changed to the Cobra style front calipers & rotors. I haven't sorted it out yet, but I was pretty happy with the PBR setup. I just got a good deal on the Cobras (under $200 for calipers & rotors)

xherdlr · Dec 31, 2004

I just bought SN95 spindle complete with brakes and rear axles w/drums for $200 from a junk yard. Ordered FRPP slotted rotors, UPR coil overs, and Maximum Motorsports steel hoses that adapt SN95 to fox body cars. Could have gotten away with stock rotors,but thought I would give the slotted rotors a try. I scored a set of 98 17" wheels for $200 with new tires. Im starting istallation today,as soon as I can find my Chiltons manual. Need it for the rear.

Kelly

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