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Paul Randle

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So i just bought the upper and lower intake of a 96 explorer n was wondering if i should use the explorer throttle body or should i get a aftermarket one? will the explorer throttle body just bolt on?
 

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No need to go and spend money on an aftermarket TB if the one you pulled off the explorer works. The 65mm explorer TB is a good choice for your setup but you will have to flip and modify the throttle bracket to get it to work. Check the tech section for a write up.
 

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i second that!
 

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The Explorer TB is fine. You will need to get a 65MM EGR spacer for it. Save your old stock TB though. You will need to remove the throttle plate from it and get it tack welded to the throttle plate on the Explorer TB.
 

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okay perfect thank you very much
 

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The throttle body plate has to be the same size as the throttle body bore right? Or no?
 
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Paul Randle said:
The throttle body plate has to be the same size as the throttle body bore right? Or no?
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You've misunderstood. You need the plate that the throttle cable attaches to. On the bottom of the TB.
 

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^^^^ what he said ^^^^
 

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Maryland Stang said:
The Explorer TB is fine. You will need to get a 65MM EGR spacer for it. Save your old stock TB though. You will need to remove the throttle plate from it and get it tack welded to the throttle plate on the Explorer TB.
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Not quite. The throttle butterfly on the Fox TB is 60mm while the butterfly on the Explorer TB is 65mm so what you'll need to do is this:

1. Remove the screws holding the throttle butterfly to the shaft on the Explorer TB, pull out the butterfly, and save it together with the screws.
2. Pull out the throttle shaft with linkage from the Explorer TB and discard it.
3. Remove the screws holding the throttle butterfly to the shaft on the Fox TB, pull out the butterfly, and discard it.
4. Pull out the throttle shaft with linkage from the Fox TB and save it.
5. Widen the slot inside the Fox throttle shaft so that the bigger Explorer butterfly will fit.
6. Check if the holes in the Explorer butterfly match up with the screw holes of the Fox throttle shaft. If not, drill new holes in the Explorer butterfly.
7. Slide Fox throttle shaft into the Explorer TB and insert the Explorer butterfly through slit in the throttle shaft.
8. Make sure the holes are aligned, that the butterfly closes properly, and insert the screws to secure it in place.

Now you're done.
 

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wait, what? the explorer tb can be used with just the quick change of the linkage
 

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madspeed1 said:
wait, what? the explorer tb can be used with just the quick change of the linkage
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Yup... That's also how I did it.. Easy peasy..
 
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Bullitt95 said:
Not quite. The throttle butterfly on the Fox TB is 60mm while the butterfly on the Explorer TB is 65mm so what you'll need to do is this:

1. Remove the screws holding the throttle butterfly to the shaft on the Explorer TB, pull out the butterfly, and save it together with the screws.
2. Pull out the throttle shaft with linkage from the Explorer TB and discard it.
3. Remove the screws holding the throttle butterfly to the shaft on the Fox TB, pull out the butterfly, and discard it.
4. Pull out the throttle shaft with linkage from the Fox TB and save it.
5. Widen the slot inside the Fox throttle shaft so that the bigger Explorer butterfly will fit.
6. Check if the holes in the Explorer butterfly match up with the screw holes of the Fox throttle shaft. If not, drill new holes in the Explorer butterfly.
7. Slide Fox throttle shaft into the Explorer TB and insert the Explorer butterfly through slit in the throttle shaft.
8. Make sure the holes are aligned, that the butterfly closes properly, and insert the screws to secure it in place.

Now you're done.
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I just took the throttle arm off the Fox TB and put it on the Exploder TB.
I didn't bother taking everthing apart, and it works fine.
I am always scared to take out throttle screws. They are a pain in the butt because of the extreme swedging they get from the factory, and I can never get them sufficiently swedged enough when putting them back to feel safe. I'd hate to have them fall out and ruin my engine.
Most of the time, they are swedged to badly, that I end up destroying the parts just trying to get them out anyway...

Just swap the throttle arm.
 

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loctite will fix that problem, but no need in this case
 

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Bullitt95 said:
Not quite.
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Well actually, most people do it the way I described. It was the way mine was done. Yours is an alternative method.
 

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wait, is a throttle plate the same thing as a throttle arm?
 

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not quite. the plate is the butterfly inside the tb. the arm is what its attached to
 

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no reason to mess with the explorer butterfly, its already setup for the tb its in
 

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okay i am now confused lol. I have the stock explorer throttle body, what do i need to do to the explorer throttle body so that is fits the mustang? will i need to buy a 65mm spacer?
 

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yes, you should get a spacer unless you are running the explorer intake. as for thr mod needed, google it. theres a good tutorial out there with pics that i used in the past
 

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well i am installing a explorer upper and lower intake. So therefore i wont need a spacer right?
 
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