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90sickfox

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The 7.3 is about 2 inches narrower than a Coyote and just the oil cooler fitting area of the pan need to be modified....oh and the PS rack dropped about an inch. Sign me up.

The 10spd auto bolts right up to it...and paddle shifters will work. I'm seriously researching putting one in my s550 in about 5 to 20yrs.
 
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90sickfox said:
The 7.3 is about 2 inches narrower than a Coyote and just the oil cooler fitting area of the pan need to be modified....oh and the PS rack dropped about an inch. Sign me up.

The 10spd auto bolts right up to it...and paddle shifters will work. I'm seriously researching putting one in my s550 in about 5 to 20yrs.
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they make an adaptor plate to use a mod bell housing on a windsor... and US shift is working on a controller for the 10 speed
 
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2Blue2

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This guy really wants a 7.3 also

 
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Mustang5L5

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If you had a 7.3l and coyote available to me for the same price....I’d take the 7.3

That’s assuming the aftermarket suppprts it.
 

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I really like this guys. To be honest, I lost interest in Ford after they abandoned their push rod V8s in favor of that modular crap.

I drive a Ram 2500/6.4 now and really like it, but would absolutely consider a super duty with the 7.3 when I'm ready for a new truck in the future
 

revhead347

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Mustang5L5 said:
id Like to see what a 7.3l, with an aftermarket cam, aftermarket intake, exhaust, and performance tune can do.

Just the thought of 500+ hp with a cam/intake swap has me drooling.

Would be nice if it was an easier drop in vs the coyote, but we will see how that goes.

But yeah, it won’t be the next junkyard LS motor, but you still need to throw money at a 302 to make power and still stuck with the prospect of splitting your block at 500.

I just like options. Will one fit in a FF cobra?
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I don't know man. With so many years of Coyote swap stuff being available, it's honestly an easier swap. There is so much information and parts available for that swap, it's going to be easier. I don't see it. It's still a pushrod engine that will never see much aftermarket support. I don't see the advantage of doing a 7.3 swap over a 460 block or BBC swap. Much more parts and support available for both.

Kurt
 

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Well, here’s a negative for the 7.3

It’s heavy. Latest vid on YouTube from Evan smith

 
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Mustang5L5 said:
Well, here’s a negative for the 7.3

It’s heavy. Latest vid on YouTube from Evan smith

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That's actually a littler heavier then I was thinking it would by about 40 lbs, but not surprising. That's why I have been looking at this engine as a drag race or street only motor compared to the coyote. On my 89' track build an additional 134 lbs would be a huge hit to weight balance.
 

CarMichael Angelo

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You could always consider using a 2jz I6 that weighs 507 lbs....Then in contrast, nothing looks too heavy.
 

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Is that what that beast weights? I knew they weren't light but that's heavier then what I was thinking.
 

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Not even dressed. Figure what? Another 50lbs with full accessories?
 

90sickfox

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A ford 460 weighs 720lbs with no oil in it....
 
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I think BBC weighs even more then the 460
 

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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSkBcFyZeks
 

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Looks like it should be a pretty robust engine but let's see if any mfg/design flaws pop up after these start logging some miles.
Looks like no direct injection either so no need to worry about carbon build up issues.
GO GO Godzilla
 
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revhead347

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The bottom line is that the aftermarket performance market is fueled by the bolt on crowd, not the engine swap crowd. This engine is not being offered in a performance vehicle. There is no return on R&D and manufacturing startup to provide performance parts for 50 people who do an engine swap.

Kurt
 
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90sickfox

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Companies are already starting to test aftermarket aluminum heads....and several other performance things. Swap headers are in the works....swap k member has already been mocked up at team z. I think the aftermarket is rolling the dice on this one. All true ford guys have been waiting for a beast like this to roll of the ford production line. Rumors are also surfacing that they are working on a supercharger kit for it. Ford performance already has the control packs and harnesses waiting to drop on the market.

Normal folks won't be able to get their hands on one for a few years....but as soon as Copart.com gets a wrecked 250 with this thing in it the bidding will commence.
 
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90sickfox said:
Companies are already starting to test aftermarket aluminum heads....and several other performance things. Swap headers are in the works....swap k member has already been mocked up at team z. I think the aftermarket is rolling the dice on this one. All true ford guys have been waiting for a beast like this to roll of the ford production line. Rumors are also surfacing that they are working on a supercharger kit for it. Ford performance already has the control packs and harnesses waiting to drop on the market.

Normal folks won't be able to get their hands on one for a few years....but as soon as Copart.com gets a wrecked 250 with this thing in it the bidding will commence.
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I'm going to go out a limb and say it's just not going to happen. I've watched all of the Team Z videos. It's an interesting experiment without much promise. I doubt you will see aftermarket cylinder heads. Team Z will likely offer a K-member at an exorbitant cost since they have already fabbed one. The durability of that K-member will not have enough test cycles to be considered reliable.

Bottom line; in order for this engine to make an impression on the performance community, Ford will have to do what they did with the Coyote. Ford will have to make a high performance version crate engine; with a performance cam, and cylinder heads. Ford will have to make a ready to go control pack for it. If Ford does that, the aftermarket manufacturers will fill in the preferentials with swap headers, swap K-members, and power adders. It's starts with the enthusiasm at Ford though.

Kurt
 

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Steel1 said:
Looks like it should be a pretty robust engine but let's see if any mfg/design flaws pop up after these start logging some miles.
Looks like no direct injection either so no need to worry about carbon build up issues.
GO GO Godzilla
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That is great. The 7.3 is not DI. I like it even more now! Good stuff
 

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2000xp8 said:
How many f250 and 350 owners are going to go for a gas engine?
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With the maintenance and repair costs of modern, emissions-controlled diesels negating the fuel cost savings of diesel, the answer is, a lot.

Fleet buyers, hotshot truckers, and even travel-trailer owners have been asking Ford and GM for a true heavy-duty gas engine for years. Dodge never quit supplying one, offering first the LA-based truck V10, and then the 6.4 and 6.7 Hemi for their heavy-duty pickups. It's no coincidence GM introduced a heavy-duty gas engine at the same time as Ford introduced Godzilla.
 
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