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93 Radio Install.......Oh Lord !!!!

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Ok....my car has an older Apline unit that will power up but has no sound. I am replacing it with a newer model with Bluetooth capabilities. The wiring was a jumbled mess to be sure.




Here are the connectors currently inside my console area. Of course the Black point plug is the antenna and the black ( 6 wires) powers up the unit. There is no plug for the smaller blue wire connector on the older radio Or new radio pictured below.



This Connector was plugged into the gray connector on the old radio. I did notice the wire color between the 2 plugs did not match but it did intact power up the radio




Here is the back of the new Pioneer radio DEH-S6220BS with Bluetooth.



I know the ...

Yellow = memory, clock, presets
Red = ignition
Black - ground
Orange/White = auto dim
Blue = Remote Control
Whites = LF
Gray = RF
Green = LR
Purple = RR



So the radio came with 2 Metra 70-1770 wiring Harnesses to make it semi plug and play with the 93 Mustang. The first one seems to be the Memory, Ignition, Dimmer, Ground, and Remote? I’m guessing only the red, black, and yellow are need to make the radio operate correctly. Also assuming the solid orange is dimmer and solid blue is remotes



The second seems to be made for the speakers based on the colors. ??



Now there is only one connector in the console and it seems to be what powers the radio so I have no idea on how to hook up the speakers unless the speaker wiring is hid in the big blue wire/connector in the console or are the power and speakers merged into the one black connector in the console

amy help or guidance will be greatly appreciated

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THis thread should have all the answers you need.

1993 Premium sound stereo into 87-92 Mustang : Install thread

No real questions here, just a thread to document what i've learned in this little project of mine. There is very little info on the net regarding this, i mostly had to peice info together that now seems very straightforward now from sources on the internet. I chose to install a 1993 OEM CD...
www.stangnet.com


What you are looking at is the harness from the amp. It’s mounted under the passenger seat. You need to dig up into the console a bit more and locate the other two connections for the amp harness and then disconnect those. The install kit wiring you have will wire into those plugs.

Photos in the above thread for reference as well as oem wiring diagrams.
 
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I look under my passenger seat and it looks like the amp has been removed



Mounted to the plate that holds the airbag module I found these connectors



 

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If the amp is gone, you can unplug the connectors you found. The aftermarket radio harness you bought will plug into these male connectors
 
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Ok.....I’m getting close. I got power....my BT devices connect.....just no sound from speaker. I’ve moved the connectors around every which way I can. 2 of the Connectors will supply power to the unit. I found only one that will plug into the the speaker connector on the back of the unit. Not a hint of sound, scratch, or buzz.

here is my radio...wires are soldered and heat stripped. I only left blue and orange off... believe they are for dimming and remote stuff



speaker wires soldered and heat stripped



these are the 2 connectors that are from the same harness



all hooked up





Leftover connectors



any thoughts or ideas.... gotta be something I missed or simple. Well I hope : )
 

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General karthief

wonder how much it would cost to ship you a pair
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Have you followed those wires back to see if the go into the harness?
 

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Test the speakers with a 9v battery if you have a battery lead you can snip off something.

Touch the wires to the speaker wire pairs in the harness at that plug. You should hear a pop in each speaker. Tha will verify the wiring out to speaker is fine
 
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Ok......tried it from the connector and got nothing so I went wire tracing.i found the wires to the door and dash speakers connected to these 2 things. Test the wires from here and got clicks on all 4 front speakers.





the rear speaker wires were not hooked into anything but I found the wire ends and both tested fine. I’m not really sure howall these wires make their way to the connector / harness but can I just run all 8 speaker wires to the center console, cut the Marta speaker connector and solder them into the correct color wire for their location that runs into the rear of the radio and not use these 2 Black things? Might be a little bit of work but shouldnt be too bad.

what gauge speaker wire do you recommend ?

thanks again for the help
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Got it all in and sounding great.... not sure but someone was in here before and I couldn’t figure out what was done. I just bypassed it all and went straight from the speakers to the console and hooked it up directly to the correct wires
 
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wonder how much it would cost to ship you a pair
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So you got rid of the black box?
 
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Yes... there were 2 of them. One right behind glove box and one above drives side kick panel. Both the dash and door speakers where plugged into them on left and right side then a positive/negative wire going out to unknown location. Not sure if the are factory but I pulled them and everything works great
 
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Wasn't a pretty sight...and I've got big hands
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They weren't factory. Those were crossovers to filter bass out of the tweeters for clarity.
 
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