yes, i meant the single piston discs and drums. also, like i said the 99-04 GT used the same brakes as the v6, only the cobra got different brakes. i think the early 4 piston k/h brakes and the 2 piston PBR's might be a close race though
I guess that all comes down to exactly what kind of stock/vintage brakes your classic has. If you have any year of drum then for sure the V6 discs from any SN95 are better. Arguably true if you have the 68-70 single piston discs too. But if you have the 4-piston (Kelsey Hayes?) design I'm gonna say no unless you can increase rotor size. Those designs were awesome, even more so for their day.
Shaun, at Street or Track LLC, has an SN95 caliper setup with steel brackets for an 11.25" front rotor:
http://www.streetortrack.com/Street-or-Track-High-Performance-Disk-Brake-Kit-Front-pr-23510.html
No way you can hook these brackets with standard SN95 calipers. SN95 calipers are deeper and have to deviate on top go at least an inch inside.
No way you can hook these brackets with standard SN95 calipers. SN95 calipers are deeper and have to deviate on top go at least an inch inside.
I'm not sure either.No sure what you imply here.
I'm not sure either.
Apparently he wants someone to provide blueprints/drawings/CAD-files for free so he can have his friend with the CNC equipment make a set for him and he won't have to pay for someone else's IP or effort and time.
That makes no sense to me what so ever. As long as the same hubs are used it should be able to mount all 3 different setups. The only thing the bracket does is locate the stock parts, as far as I know there is no other intermediate bracket. If it mounts one it should mount them all because they all use the same hubs and mount to the same spot on the stock SN95 spindle. If one is located properly then they should all be located properly. Maybe I'm missing something but thats what my logic tells me.
On SN95 Mustangs, both the GT caliper+rotor and the Cobra caliper+rotor combinations bolt to the same spindle and hub. In theory the same would apply to a vintage spindle + MS bracket + drum hub.
However, the GT/V6 caliper interferes with MS's bracket, so it doesn't fit. He had some ideas on how to solve this problem, but I don't know if that project ever materialized. Also, the GT rotors don't fit the vintage drum hubs. You could turn the hubs down, but apparently too much material needs to be removed to consider it safe.
Hope that explains it
I believe that is why Daze took his brackets off the market. He had brackets that would make the 99-04 (all of these brackets we've been talking about only work on the 99-04, not SN95 which is considered 94-04), but would require machine work to the original drum spindles or hubs. I never found out why it was taken off the market, but he did so a few weeks before I was ready to buy a set to install some 99-04 GT front brakes on my car.
The new 05-08 drums look like a good alternative if you want to keep the 15"-16" wheel as an option, if not, opt for the cobra ones which require the 17" wheel. That is the dilemma I am stuck in now, as I already purchased 15" wheels and tires.
-Edgar
all the Mustang bodies from '94-'04 (Including my '03 Mach 1) were all built on the SN95 platform.
The previous Mustang platform ('79-'93) was the Fox platform. The current Mustang platform (2005-present) is the S197 version.
total accuracy.
The fox platform was originally designed for the Fairmont, remember those? LOL.
The Mustang II was based on the Pinto chassis too...oooops.
Of course our beloved early models were merely Falcons
Maybe I don't fully understand what you're asking, but these are the brackets Shaun had made to adapt the SN95 Mustang front calipers to the stock early Mustang spindles:
http://www.streetortrack.com/files/images/st/hpbracketcad.jpg
http://www.streetortrack.com/Street-or-Track-High-Performance-Disk-Brake-Kit-Front-pr-23510.html
Well, hell, if that's what he wants I guess I should just send the drawings for my rear disc conversion brackets so he and his CNC buddy can jump right on copying them, and that will help take some of the uncertainty out of figuring the rears out.
Which setup would you like --the Mk VII, SN95 V6/GT, or Cobra bracket drawings?
I'm afraid if you're wanting to come up with a set of adapter brackets to have machined, you'll have to do it like others of us have done --put the time, effort and expense of figuring it out yourself. (unless you sink low enough pirate the design from someone's existing setup).
If you are dead set on CNC'ing your own brackets, figure it out yourself or buy a set and reverse engineer it.
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