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95 mustang rear end noise

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whitepony1995

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hello i'm new to this forum i've owned my 95 mustang gt for 2 years now and i love it. my question is at about 90 mph i get a roar from the rear end and what fun is a mustang if you cant go over 90. anyway i had the rear end rebuilt this year thinking that would fix it and it did not. i was going to start with simple stuff and work my way up but i thought if anyone has had this problem you could point me in the right direction thanks.
 
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red95gtconvert

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It could be any of the bearings in the rear end, It could be to much prelaod on the pinion bearings, bad carrier bearings or even bad axle bearings. Is the roaring sound constant? on aceleration or deceleration?
 

GTA_V6_Mustang

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Could be the tires also
 

whitepony1995

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it is only when i'm on the gas at 90 mph if i let off the gas it goes away
 

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Define having the rear end rebuilt... what was done...?

My car did this until the bad wear pattern on the gears wore out... long story... so it could be gears, rear end bearings, tires, or even drivesahft potentially...
 

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new 3.73 gears and all new bearings. reused old axles
 
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bmac50

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You'll need to drain the transmission to check this but check the inside of the axle gridle for marks. If to much pressure is put on the gears it will make a sound like yours.

Many noises can occur from the rear:

NOISE ACCEPTABILITY
Drive axles produce a certain amount of noise, as all gear-driven parts do. Some noise is acceptable and may be audible at certain speeds or under various driving conditions, such as a newly paved blacktop road. The slight noise is in no way detrimental to rear axle operation and may be considered normal.

With Traction-Lok limited slip differential axle, slight chatter noise on slow, tight turns after extended highway driving is considered acceptable and has no detrimental effect on the axle's locking function.

GEAR NOISE
Gear noise is the typical "howling" or "whining" of the ring gear and pinion due to an improper gear pattern, gear damage, or improper bearing preload. It can occur at various speeds and driving conditions, or it can be continuous.

CHUCKLE
Chuckle is a particular "rattling" noise that sounds like a stick against the spokes of a bicycle wheel. It occurs while decelerating from 40 mph and can be heard all the way to a stop. The frequency varies with the vehicle's speed.

KNOCK
Knock is very similar to chuckle, though it may be louder and occurs on acceleration or deceleration.

CLUNK
Clunk may be a metallic noise heard when the automatic transmission is engaged in REVERSE or DRIVE, or it may occur when the throttle is applied or released. It is caused by backlash somewhere in the driveline, or loose suspension components.

BEARING WHINE
Bearing whine is a high pitched sound similar to a whistle. It is usually caused by malfunctioning pinion bearings, which are operating at driveshaft speed. Bearing noise occurs at all driving speeds. This distinguishes it from gear whine, which usually comes and goes as speed changes.

BEARING RUMBLE
Bearing rumble sounds like marbles being tumbled. This condition is usually caused by a malfunctioning wheel bearing. The lower pitch is because the wheel bearing turns at only about one third of driveshaft speed. In addition, wheel bearing noise may be high pitched, similar to gear noise but will be evident in all four driving modes.

CHATTER ON CORNERING
Chattering noise when cornering is a condition where the whole rear end vibrates only when the vehicle is moving. The vibration is plainly felt as well as heard. In conventional axles, extra differential thrust washers cause a partial lockup condition which creates this chatter. Chatter noise on Traction-Lok axles can usually be traced to erratic movement between adjacent clutch plates and can be corrected with a lubricant change.

CLICK AT ENGAGEMENT
Click at engagement is a condition on axles of a slight noise, distinct from a clunk that happens in REVERSE or DRIVE engagement. It can be corrected by installing a slinger between the companion flange and front pinion bearing.
 

94-302-vert

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That's a great summary... where did you get that and it should probably go in one of the stickies...
 

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alright that is a cool description but my noise isn't any of those it sounds like bearing rumble but the bearings are new. the mechanic that did the rebuild said that the axle shafts were pitted where the wheel bearings ride could this make that sound?
 
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red95gtconvert

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whitepony1995 said:
alright that is a cool description but my noise isn't any of those it sounds like bearing rumble but the bearings are new. the mechanic that did the rebuild said that the axle shafts were pitted where the wheel bearings ride could this make that sound?
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Yes it could, it would also make your axle bearings wear out very quickly.
 

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what about turning my driveshaft 180?
 
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How about the rear axle shaft universal joints?
 

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whitepony1995

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your talking about the driveshaft u joints right? yes they are new i replaced them when i did the rear end
 
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bmac50

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Was the noise there before you replaced them?
 

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yes it was
 

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I question where your going over 90 on a regular basis????? Or better yet why??
Well anyway, your bearings sound like the culprit, but if the u joints are kinda locked up it'll sound like that too.
 

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I vote pinion bearings...

When my guy did my rear end he didn't get the right rotatonal torque on the pinion (not enough bearing pre-load) this cause the bearings to go bad and a bad pattern on my new gears. 1200 miles later he rebuilt the entire rear-end and all was good for a couple hundred miles then the noises (banging) started again.

Bud and I got it in the ear expecting to have to re-do the gear install, the pinion had no (0-1 in-lb) rotational torque, so we tightened down the pinion nut to get to the desired preload and for the last 32k miles i have been working on wearing out the bad pattern on the gears, now it only shows at speeds in excess of 95mph. for a while it was everythign above 60... but it takes driving at those speeds to wear them in...
 
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bmac50

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whitepony1995 said:
what about turning my driveshaft 180?
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It's posible but a shaft 180 out usually shows signs before 90MPH. Without hearing it I'm out of ideas.

It could be something as simple as tires.
 

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just talked to my rear end guy he said it probably wasn't the axles it would make noise when turning he did say he would balance my driveshaft just to eliminate it as a cause. i've rolled out anything in the rear end because it made the same noise before the rebuild and at the same speed as after the rebuild. i'm leaning toward the wheels driveshaft or the transmission (aode with a transgo shift kit), but i don't know what it could be if it is the tranny maybe the output shaft bearing??????????
 
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red95gtconvert

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I've had axle bearings make noise turning, going straight, coasting and everything in between. Balancing the driveshaft will smooth things up if there is a vibration but I wouldn't expect it clear up the noise you are hearing.
 
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