Gearbanger 101 said:I can't hear them from here, what are they saying?
billfisher said:i paid 200.00 for the heads/cams low miles
88.00 for intake
gaskets, etc.
good idea.
DropTopPony said:by doing a PI headswap you gain @ 40-45rwhp
by doing the PI intake/cams you get 30-35rwhp and i've seen dyno's...
so the 10 hp gained by switching to PI heads isn't that impressive when you factor in the almost 1 point of compression bump.
Haha i saw them messing with you on Tccoa....was amusingbillfisher said:i'm tellin you guys... leave the t-bird guys alone. they're a harsh bunch. they bring facts to the table. it can be painful to argue with them.
when you learn this thing grasshopper, it's time for you to go.
i changed to pi for the free increase in compression, and the cams came with the heads. they also fit the pi intake better than the ones i had.
Go to http://www.linktrek.com/messageboard/ and ask Zanzer to post his dyno from his PI Intake/Cams...he gained 32 rwhp...5spd GT said:So your saying the only hp gain is from the compression change alone? Nope. Have you seen the heads side by side, that alone will let you know that your going to gain some higher hp atleast just from the intake/exhaust ports on the PI's.
Show me a dyno with just PI cam/PI intake that gained 30-35rwhp. I doubt your going to find it.
Let's see some stangs, t-birds have slight differences, exhaust, etc...
I think some are jealous of the guys that actually afforded the heads and all...
It all adds up, just remember that.
no tune needed.5spd GT said:So would swapping stock PI cams and PI intake do anything to how the car drives...? Need a tune?
I'll differ with that opinion. Granted I have Comp 262's but anytime you make a dramatic change to the engine I'd go for a tune also. My tune gained 5 tenths in the 1/4 after the PI intake and cam swap.DropTopPony said:no tune needed.
1996 4.6 SOHC 215HP Mustang Enginebert96 said:I have also a gt 96,and i would like to install PI cam,but how can i see the difference between PI cam and NPI cam? do they have something i can see,number? etc...
You didn't swap PI cams so you definately needed the tune. A tune is the best way to go when doing the PI intake/PI cams but it is not a must do. I didn't get tuned after my full PI swap and it ran great...just took a few days of light driving to let the computer sort itself out.COramprat said:I'll differ with that opinion. Granted I have Comp 262's but anytime you make a dramatic change to the engine I'd go for a tune also. My tune gained 5 tenths in the 1/4 after the PI intake and cam swap.
Hahaha.....that tccoa thread got ugly, didn't it.billfisher said:i'm tellin you guys... leave the t-bird guys alone. they're a harsh bunch. they bring facts to the table. it can be painful to argue with them.
when you learn this thing grasshopper, it's time for you to go.
i changed to pi for the free increase in compression, and the cams came with the heads. they also fit the pi intake better than the ones i had.
Outlaw97GT said:I just read that thread from tccoa too.
They treated like you were talking about installing a VTEC motor in or somthing...
They do have some great NPI info on tccoa.
TGJ said:Won't let me EDIT the above post. I strongly suggest you search feature over there before you post questions. If you go to start trouble, you won't last long. They are quite quick to use the ban features.
Thats what i do...i just read up on alot of things but don't post since i don't have a bird or cougar. Its a great place to go if you have an auto trans!TGJ said:Won't let me EDIT the above post. I strongly suggest you search feature over there before you post questions. If you go to start trouble, you won't last long. They are quite quick to use the ban features.
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