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98 gt 4.6 to 87-93 5.0 swap

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98gt46

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i have a 1998 gt and seven years later the modular motor seems a bit disapointing ( "actualy from the first time i got beat by a honda civic race car when i say race car i meen it had a big wing and muffler lol , at that point i realized that i didnt like the 4.6" ), and i dont have the cash or desire to rebuild the massive 4.6 .. so i have decided to install a real engine, a rebuilt 5.0 HO motor out of a lincoln . will my 5speed bolt up to the 5.0? motor mounts ? exaust manifolds ? any information would help. thanks
 

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do a PI swap and spank a 5.0
 
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98gt46 said:
( "actualy from the first time i got beat by a honda civic race car when i say race car i meen it had a big wing and muffler lol , at that point i realized that i didnt like the 4.6" ),
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maybe you just need to learn how to drive. but seriously too much effort goes into a 5.0 swap and you'd be better off building up a 4.6 or selling your car and getting a fox or 94-95.
 

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full PI swap and some stage II cams + 125 shot of giggle gas.
 

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for the money you are gunna spend doing that you'd be better off doing a little work to the 4.6. it can scream with a little work
 
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just remember, if you do the 5.0 swap you wont be legal. you cant put in an older motor.
 

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it seems as tho everyones aginst a 5.0 swap.
and yes i know how to drive lol
this weekend i am going to put a 2001 gt rear end in my car while i rebuild mine with new bearings 373 gears and extra clutches after that i will do the pi swap but i am not very optimistic about the results. Iv seen for about 600$ i can get used pi heads and manifold , is there anything else i will need ? if this does not wake the car up i probably will do some sort of engine swap either the 5.0 or something bigger.
 

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bdcardinal said:
just remember, if you do the 5.0 swap you wont be legal. you cant put in an older motor.
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only in cali
 

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98gt46 said:
it seems as tho everyones aginst a 5.0 swap.
and yes i know how to drive lol
this weekend i am going to put a 2001 gt rear end in my car while i rebuild mine with new bearings 373 gears and extra clutches after that i will do the pi swap but i am not very optimistic about the results. Iv seen for about 600$ i can get used pi heads and manifold , is there anything else i will need ? if this does not wake the car up i probably will do some sort of engine swap either the 5.0 or something bigger.
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gears & a pi swap.........you WILL notice a difference
 

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larger throttle body ? injectors ? ect..
 

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streetstang03 said:
full PI swap and some stage II cams + 125 shot of giggle gas.
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add some 4.10s to that too.
 

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larger throttle body ? injectors ? ect..
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TB....sure.

injectors.....no real need for it at that point
 

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well i did alot of reading before i bought the 373 gears and most everyone said it was a better choice for the sohc with a 5 speed so thats what i bought
 

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well i did alot of reading before i bought the 373 gears and most everyone said it was a better choice for the sohc with a 5 speed so thats what i bought
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they are good gears, & if you go up in power levels you'll be set. but where you're at now 4.10 - 4.30 is ideal, imo
 

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what size t.b. should i buy? and can i gain anything by doing away with the converters , i have stock converters and i replaced the flowmasters i had on it with a pice of pipe because i wanted it to be a little louder , would i be better off getting an offroad x pipe and putting the flowmasters back on and what type of gains could i expect to see with the pi swap , tb , and x pipe
 

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70mm if staying N/A
75mm if going F/I


O/R xpipe will sound sick w/ the Flows. if you want, PM me your email and i will send you a video clip of my GT. w/ the PI swap, you'll be quicker than a stock 99-04 GT. add some Stage II Comp Cams or VT cams and some nitrous and you'll be set.
 
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