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puma1552

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I got a '98 GT with a Mach 460, but there are no speakers in the rear package tray?

The car has the door tweeters, the CD player/cassette players, and the tray in the trunk with the two amps tucked up at the top. Yet, there are no visible package tray speakers in the back, but I definitely have sound coming from the back and decent bass.

Did the '98s have the speakers tucked under the package tray carpet material? I swear in other Stangs you can see the rear speakers for the Mach 460...?
 

wheelyman19

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U can't see them unless u pull the cover thing with the mach 460 grille on it and they'll be under there. U gotta pull out the tray to change them tho
 
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I can't see the Mach 460 grille--the speakers/grilles are completely out of sight underneath the package tray. I just don't remember seeing Mach 460 cars that way, I always thought you could see the rear package tray speakers, unless I'm mistaken.
 

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^ no you're absoluty right... it should look like this back there:



Do you have the front Mach 460 tweeter covers on the door? looks like this:



Puma, you may have had someone who decided to instead create a custom rear cover for aftermarket speakers who then replaced the aftermarket stuff with the stock 460 stuff as best as they could. I have a '98 as well and I for sure have the M460 speaker covers on the back dash.
 
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Yep, definitely don't have that rear package tray with the cutouts.

The car has the door tweeters, and the cassette and single in dash CD player, kicker speakers in the lower doors, and the tray in the trunk with the two amps. Car has every other option--17s, leather with power lumbar, and even the 3.27s out back. Also being a black on black 5 speed owned by a Mustang Club of America member, it seems apparent he was really trying to get a loaded up, desirable, hot car. Car is also unmolested and bone stock down to the paint, with the exception of a pair of old man glasspacks and red-painted stock brake calipers. Given what I know about the car, would seem really odd to have had someone mess with the stereo, but who knows.

Here's what I've got:

It's definitely a factory package tray, as it follows the contours of the seats in that it has the humps like the plastic seat surrounds in front of it:

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Amps in the trunk:

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Door tweeters, which don't appear to have been hacked in (I know the non Mach 460 door panels are different):

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I didn't take pictures of the door speakers since I'm sure all Mustangs got something there, nor did I take a picture of the head unit because my camera battery died right when I hit the shutter, lol.

Maybe Ford did a mid-year change, or ran out of parts toward the end? Mine was one of the very last aero SN95s built, in September '98. I know GM does stuff like that all the time...? The speakers sound good with pretty decent bass, you just can't see them as they are under that tray.
 
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puma1552 said:
Maybe Ford did a mid-year change, or ran out of parts toward the end? Mine was one of the very last aero SN95s built, in September '98. I know GM does stuff like that all the time...? The speakers sound good with pretty decent bass, you just can't see them as they are under that tray.
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^^^So much for that I guess. Just found my exact car, mint as hell with 40k miles on it on Autotrader (same color and everything, damnit) and that one has the same speakers as N8's but it is 25k cars later in vin sequence. That one is a lot later and has the speaker grilles. Though that makes me wonder how much longer they built the '98 cars if mine is a September '98 build which to me should be the end of the road but there were still cars thousands later.

Who knows what's up with mine. Sounds decent though.

EDIT: Looks like Ford stamped out 170k ponys in '98, so not sure how a 48k sequence car would've been built as late as September, unless '97 was a long year and '98s were intro'd later, or if '98 was a long year with a delay for the new '99s. But I guess that's a separate issue.
 
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Anyone? I also found this, which if you scroll almost to the bottom where it talks about taking out the rear speakers, there is a version A and a version B, version B sounds like what I have.

Mach 460 Information

Anyone ever have a Mach 460 car without visible rear package tray speakers?

EDIT: Radio code on the doortag is 8, but googling tells me nothing. It's really frustrating that there isn't any site out there dedicated to history/restoration/etc. for these cars where options etc. are documented. The best I could come up with was a Ford PDF for 2004 Mustangs which was irrelevant as 8 wasn't even a doortag code for the radio then, and a site with the Ford info for 2000 Mustangs, which is also probably irrelevant but showed 8 as a radio code for two different stereos, one being Mach 460 and one being a premium, non-Mach system.
 
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Nobody?
 

Sonic04GT

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That's strange. I'm just here to see what happens

My '04 definitely has the visible rear speakers as shown above.
 

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Puma1552- the Mach 460 rear "appearance cover" of my 94 GT looks just like yours.
That's all it is really,just a cover.
If you were to remove the 3-10mm bolts and take out the rear headrest, that cover should just pull right off,and you'll see the 4 Mach speakers under the rear deck of the car.
The 4 Mach rear speakers (2 tweeters,2-6x8 "subs") mount to the plastic package tray,which mount from inside the trunk up on to the rear deck of the car.

As for your car not having the rear speaker grills,I think its just luck of the draw.

I've seen both 95-95 Mach 460 equipped Mustangs with and without the speaker grills.

If the grills are something you really want,a quick trip to the wrecking yard is in order.
 
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Thank you!! Now I know my car is a legit Mach 460 car--I actually prefer not being able to see the speakers, it's a little cleaner, and less likely that some riff-raff will break in to steal it...not that anyone would want a Mach 460 anyway but thugs are thugs.
 

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I love the Mach 460. For a factory system, with my aftermarket Alpine headunit, it sounds GREAT. Not a whole lot of bass, but I'm white.
 
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Lol, yeah it's not bad...but I wish it had more volume for 75 down the freeway with the windows down...can barely hear **** with the volume at like 80%.
 
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My car has the mach 1000 system but no speakers on the package tray. Is that because its a convertible?
 

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Unirok-yes,the vert speakers are mounted behind the rear plastic armrests.
If you look closely,you'll see the fabric speaker "grills" on each side.
 

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Meh, the Mach 460 is alright... I can't hear much out of it due to my exhaust. I'm slowly acquiring parts to do a complete overhaul of the stereo with new components all around, a nice 4 channel amp, and a sub w/ a monoblock amp.

I currently have a 10" MTX sub in my trunk that I bought like 8 years ago hooked up to an MTX monoblock amp. Here's a pic (not my car but you get the idea). Overall the car stereo is much better with the added bass of a sub.

 
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Mach 1000 is where its at! The best factory system ive ever had. No one believes me when I tell them its all stock.
 

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puma1552 said:
Lol, yeah it's not bad...but I wish it had more volume for 75 down the freeway with the windows down...can barely hear **** with the volume at like 80%.
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Get a new headunit. Mine hurts my ears and it's still clear.
 

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ItsStock02 said:
Mach 1000 is where its at! The best factory system ive ever had. No one believes me when I tell them its all stock.
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I've always kind of wanted the Mach 1000 but I wouldn't pay for it at this point. If I went that route I'd just get aftermarket subs and amps. I like my trunk space though. Mach 1000 looks pretty sweet how they set it up in the trunk.
 
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