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Advice Needed for Cam/Intake/Carb for my N/A 347......

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Katmandu

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Cam/Intake/Carb for my N/A 347......

My car is a 89 LX Vert with a T5, 3.55 gear, soon to be 347 11.1CR shortblock with Thumper heads.

My expectations are as follows.... 1) Fair weather weekend cruiser with occasional jaunts down the 1/4 2) I want a radical idle with big top end power 3) Still need to keep it fairly driveable.

The 3.55s and Thumpers are staying for now. I also have a set of Crane 1.7RRs.

My Old School buddy says go big on the cam and get the Revs high. Power range 3000 - 7000 RPMs.

Do I go Roller or Non-Roller on the cam ?? What intake ?? What size carb ??

Advice please !!
 

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87,500 Members and NO responses ????

Come on guys......help me out here....
 
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Get a custom cam from cam research, 1-303-762-0022. Holley 750 DP and a victor jr should feed your 347 well at high rpm's. I would seriously consider a solid lifter setup. It's not a daily driver so adjustments will be infrequent, and no hydraulic lifter holds a candle to a solid at high rpm's, and nothing idles like a solid either. A solid sounds like you mean serious business.
 
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"I want a radical idle with big top end power"

Getting those heads to make any power up high in that motor is going to need dead on timing events...custom without question!
 

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With the 347 Setup i was going to build, i was going to go with the Victor Jr intake, a Demon 650, and a custom ground cam that was similiar to the comp cams 282HR. I was going to go with a hydrolic roller setup. Also the AFR 185cc heads.
 

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If you want to rev it that high I would highly reccomend heads that are meant to make high rpm hp.....Like Edelbrock Vic Jr.'s, Trickflow High Ports, or AFR 185 or 205.
 

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Carbed86GT said:
Get a custom cam from cam research, 1-303-762-0022. Holley 750 DP and a victor jr should feed your 347 well at high rpm's.
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Wouldn't a 750 be to big for a 347 ??

I know a double pumper would be great for WOT, but wouldn't it be too much for the street ??

I would seriously consider a solid lifter setup. It's not a daily driver so adjustments will be infrequent, and no hydraulic lifter holds a candle to a solid at high rpm's, and nothing idles like a solid either. A solid sounds like you mean serious business.
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How often would Solid lifter setups "NEED" to be adjusted ??
 

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Katmandu said:
Wouldn't a 750 be to big for a 347 ??

I know a double pumper would be great for WOT, but wouldn't it be too much for the street ??
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If you really want to rev to 7000 rpm, you're gonna need a carburetor that can give it air at those rpms. A 750 dp would be fine I would think.
 

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90Notch said:
"I want a radical idle with big top end power"

Getting those heads to make any power up high in that motor is going to need dead on timing events...custom without question!
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To what Specs ??

How much does a custom grind cost ??
 

bluevenom867

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You'll need a BIG cam.

Example:Comp Cams solid roller cam .613In/Ex 264In/Ex 110* (Magnum 31-761-8)
Comp Cams solid flat tappet .541In/.522Ex 242In/246Ex 106* (Drag race 31-639-5)

Thats what it shows for cam in the 3000-7000rpm range.

Notice thou,that the flat tappet is smaller and cheap to buy.And thats what you would go with for a solid cam.
 
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I know a guy that runs a solid in his daily driver t-bird 393 and he adjusts about 3 times a year.
 
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90Notch

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Guys who make big power and rev stock heads up high all use low lift, high duration cams and lazy lobes. Like I said you need to get the timing events right. Custom should run you roughly $300 +/- $50 depending on who you go to. Try Ed at FTI he has spec'd many cams for stock heads and should know what you'll need.
 

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Katmandu said:
87,500 Members and NO responses ????

Come on guys......help me out here....
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50,000 post just like this and you cant search it??

like others have said: custom, vic jr/TFS heads, RPM air gap intake, and a 680-750 carb.
 
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My custom roller cam was $257 shipped from cam research. I'm sure a solid or hydr flat tappet cam is significantly lower. I like 'em cause all they grind is Ford cams.
 

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Carbed86GT said:
My custom roller cam was $257 shipped from cam research.
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Is the with or without roller lifters ??
 
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Sorry the price I quoted was for a hyd roller not roller
 

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Sorry the price I quoted was for a hyd roller not roller
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Do you mean .... Hydraulic Flat Tappet instead of a Hydraulic Roller ??
 
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just the cam.
 
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90Notch

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"Do you mean .... Hydraulic Flat Tappet instead of a Hydraulic Roller ??"

No I mean hyd roller camshaft:

$325 FTI
$290 Buddy Rawls
$295 HiTech

are prices I've seen, most solid rollers I've seen are less
 
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