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mustangman70

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Allright, time to buy what i need now that i sort of know what im doing lol

I found a guy selling a 5 hp 26 gallon husky air compressor with a 50 foot hose for 90 bucks.



Will this be fine to run most the air tools i have?

I just bought a 4.5 inch angle grinder, a 3 inch speed cutter, 3/8 impact wrench and a allready have a 3/8 impact gun.


Are there any other good air tools needed for the job? Also for those who have a compressor that is similer how do you like it
 

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What cfm is it?

I have been looking into the same stuff. This link has a table that describes the normal tool and what cfm (cubic feet per minute) of air flow it needs. It seems cfm is the most important part of a compressor system. Big tank just allow your pump to rest longer during use of the air tools.

Someone correct me if I am wrong. I have been looking for a compressor that produces 5-6 cfm at 90 for grinders and such.
 

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found what you maybe be looking at

The new model of what you are looking at on homedepot.com is $377 and produces 5.5 cfm at 90 psi.

In short looks great for $90 without any accossories!

Assuming this is it.
 
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Ok i just called him....he said it is the one that can be ran "vertically or horizontally"

And has 1.7 running HP but 5.5 max or something?

Anyways heres the specs, dont forget its ALSo coming with a 50 foot hose!


Internet/Catalog # 100071209
Brand HUSKY
Model # WL6507
Air Delivery 5.1 SCFM @ 90 PSI
Assembled Depth (In Inches) 47
Assembled Height (In Inches) 25
Assembled Weight (In LBS) 95
Assembled Width (In Inches) 20
Carrying System Wheeled
Engine Horsepower 5.5 HP
Full Roll Cage No
Included Accessories Quick Coupler and built-in tool storage
Max Air Pressure Delivery 150 PSI
Motor Universal
Power Requirement 120 Volt
Regulator Yes
Tank Capacity 26 Gal.
Tank Pressure Gauge Yes
Type Air Compressor
UPC CODE 045564598570
Weight(Lbs.) 95 Lbs.
Wheels/Portability Yes
Working Pressure Gauge Yes

http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDU...ID=ccdladdiidflfhmcgelceffdfgidgmk.0&MID=9876


Inm thinking it is the 259 dollar one....



HUSKY
1.7 Running Hp, 26 Gallon Horizontal/vertical Compressor

Model WL6507
Price: $259.00/ea
 

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that one says: "Compressor creates 3.8 SCFM @ 90 psi"

I guess the best way to know if it is enough is to look at what cfm your tools need, assuming you have most of what you are going to use. Still a good deal, just check to see if it can handle the tools you have.
 

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Believe me more is better when it comes to a compressor mine has 6.7 CFM 150 psi 33 gal tank and it runs constantly when I am using the cutoff wheel or the right angle die grinder. If I had it to do over again I would have bought the biggest one I could have gotten my hands on. Two stroke is much better and quieter. I have to ware hearing protection all the time just because of the compressor even when I stop working I have to weight for the compressor to catch back up. The cfm rating is for its average cfm the full load is much higher.
 
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I wonder why it would say Air Delivery 5.1 SCFM @ 90 PSI in the specs...hhrrrmmmm

....meh ill go look at it if its in good shape i will pick it up.

I cant afford no 400 dollar compressor. I still need to buy a welder, some body panals etc
 

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It has also been my experience that with air tools you get what you pay. Look at the CFM requirement before buying it. I have several tools from harbor freight that do not work very well.
 

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dude...let me just say that compressor will run your tools just fine. When you get to paint guns and sanders that you are running long amounts of time, thats when the compressor will kill you. Air ratchets or drills wont hurt you.


When doing bodywork, you only need 1 tool in my opinion. A dual action sander and thats ONLY for smoothing a highbuild primer. When you start layin down bondo, anyone new to bodywork(myself included) will sand it down way to fast with a pneumatic sander. Theres going to be a lot of back hurting work. You need to get a longboard (they are 17.5" I believe long by 2" or so) with some 80 grit and then 180 grit paper. Get the sticky kind that sticks to the longboard. ONLY USE THAT to bring down the bondo...if you use a sander, you will bring it down way to fast and not keep it smooth and flat. The DA sander will be used with 180-400 grit paper to get the primer smooth as glass and ready for paint. If you want, you can knock down the ridges in the bondo when with 80grit on a DA but only the ridges. ones its all level, back to hand sanding.

I have had 4 different body guys yell at me because I was tryin to take the easy way out with a sander.
 

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5.1 scfm at 90 psi is probably a misprint. I bet its more like 4 scfm at 90 psi. I have a 5 hp belt driven compressor with a 30 gal tank that runs constant when using a cutoff tool or grinder and it is has 10scfm at 90 psi. The air volume with a tank that size will be good, but if you run tools that have air constantly blowing through them like grinders and cut off tools you will have to wait frequently for your tank to recover. Ask the guy who's selling the compressor why he is selling it.. probably not enough volume. For $90, it can get you by better than anything else you can get for that price..
 

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He is doing a lot of rust repair and that means grinder and cutoff wheel so the compressor will be running a lot. I did butt welds and then ground them smooth so I was grind a lot YMMV.
 
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I dont care if the compressor has to run in order to crank out the air.

As long as it WILL allor me to use the grinder and wheel ill be happy....especially for 90 bucks...
 

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mustangman70 said:
I dont care if the compressor has to run in order to crank out the air.

As long as it WILL allor me to use the grinder and wheel ill be happy....especially for 90 bucks...
Click to expand...


Id stick to an electric grinder... I love my Dewalt 4" one. NEver wait on air, plenty of power and doesnt get cold. You can also use 4" cutting wheels on it
 
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how much do they normally run dude?

Either way im still buying a compressor lol
 

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mustangman70 said:
how much do they normally run dude?

Either way im still buying a compressor lol
Click to expand...

the grinder usually runs about $90 or so... I use it way more than my little radiac with a cutoff wheel. It just has a lot more balls to it. I would buy a right angle grinder for a compressor though. I love good ole rolocs
 

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in my experiences, that tank will casue the compressor to run constantly. the other bad thing about this is that you will also have to wait for the air pressure to build up ALL THE TIME. my buddy has a 30 gallon 5 hp craftsman compressor. it works only for small stuff. grinding takes too much air. painting is the same way. you can get some small stuff painted, but nothing bigger than maybe a door, without waiting for the compressor to catch up.

for the money, that compressor is a good deal. just remember that it will not do everything needed for bodywork. you will get frustrated.

good bodywork tools include: angle die grinder, DA sander (get a palm DA if you can find one. much more comfy than a regular DA), 5" grinder, cut off wheel (get the weld grinding discs for quick grinding of welds, regular cut off discs for cutting), an air file (straight line sander) will help you out with large flat panels, but will also make your hands numb, making you loose feeling in it to determine if the panel is straight.

any other questions, let me know. i am an ASE bodyman.
 
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Bigcat....i could probably keep you up for the rest of the week with all of my questions lol

Lets say i get that compressor...get the 5" cutter out....and jump inside in order to start cutting some of the floor out....

just HOW LONG do you think i could get use out of it before i needed to wait for the tank to fill again?

Just the thought of waiting i can allready see fustrating me....but there are SO many other things i need lol and my wallet is not deep by any means.
 

bigcat

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well, i think it will take longer to filll than you can use the tool, but let me call my buddy and ask him directly. ill get back to you in a little while.
 
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Well ill tell ya what...lol


We will know the answer to this question this weekend hopefully when the destruction begins hahaha
 

bigcat

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my buddy says its good enough for his needs. he does need to wait, but usually has something else he could be doing during these times. but his is a 30 gal. you would get slightly less work time out of it.
 
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