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tjm73

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Anyone have any experience with the Allen kit? Uses the Eaton M90. It's intercooled. Looks like a nice unit.

 

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maybe WRXracer

he runs something like that.

yep-
http://forums.stangnet.com/member.php?userid=41886

personally I'd pass on it.

 

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68 & 00 GT said:

maybe WRXracer

he runs somethng like that.

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im pretty sure thats what hes running. shoot him a PM

 

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yeah see my edit above that link is to him-

 

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not enough HP gain for the $$$ , non intercooled KB would kick its A$$$$$ , you could then have more HP while you save up to add the intercooler on the KB

 

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2002BLGT said:

not enough HP gain for the $$$ , non intercooled KB would kick its A$$$$$ , you could then have more HP while you save up to add the intercooler on the KB

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Hmmm...yeah...too bad KB doesn't make a kit for the 96-98 cars....


I've been a KB fan since '93 when a friend put one on his '93 Lightening. That thing was sick. Id' much rather have the KB as it is MUCH more efficient than the Eaton M90.

If I were to PI Swap the top end of my motor in my 98 GT, is there any reason why I couldn't run a 9psi-intercooled KB for a 99-04 car? With the appropriate computer tune of course.

 

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Hmmm...yeah...too bad KB doesn't make a kit for the 96-98 cars....


I've been a KB fan since '93 when a friend put one on his '93 Lightening. That thing was sick. Id' much rather have the KB as it is MUCH more efficient than the Eaton M90.

If I were to PI Swap the top end of my motor in my 98 GT, is there any reason why I couldn't run a 9psi-intercooled KB for a 99-04 car? With the appropriate computer tune of course.

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would work great if you just remove some material from the cylinder head chambers to lower the compression slightly , if you dont do that I would stick to under 8 lbs of boost , be hard to tune with alot of compression , might wanna look into a low mileage PI engine swap that way you have a fresher engine and compression ratio is not so high . I have seen 40 K mile PI engines go for about 900 to 1200 bucks , just some thoughts .

 

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the eaton M90 is a very small blower. I think even the 03/04 cobra uses the Eaton M112. Don't waste your money IMO, get a bigger Eaton or a KB.

 

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Too small of a blower you will want something bigger.

 

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I know the compression with the PI swap is about 10:1 on a '98 GT per FRPP.

What's the stock compression in '98 and '99-'04?

 

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somewhere around 9.0 to 9.2 i think , not sure but its definitely not 10

 

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2002BLGT said:

somewhere around 9.0 to 9.2 i think , not sure but its definitely not 10

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Which question are you answering? Or are you saying my 10:1 info is wrong? It's 10:1 if you swap PI heads onto a Non-PI engine. See below.

 

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2002BLGT

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no I knew you were right , but I was saying the stock compression on the PI engines is stock 9 something . I just meant that 10 was too high for a blower in my opinion atleast not a big one .

 

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WRXracer sold his car tho.....i think

 

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2002BLGT said:

no I knew you were right , but I was saying the stock compression on the PI engines is stock 9 something . I just meant that 10 was too high for a blower in my opinion atleast not a big one .

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10 is definitly too much for a blower. Wasn't thinking bout that when I typed the idea.

If I did a blower I would have to do a blower specific short block with rods and pistons minimum.

I may just do a stout N/A setup. My options are wide open at this point. I'm just floating some different ideas.

What I want to have ultimately, is a minimum of 300 hp at the wheels. Which is totally do-able with N/A without too much hassle.

I've also thought about a 10 psi Pro-Charger on the stock block/heads. MM&FF got 323hp on a stock '97 GT and ran into the 12's with it.

 

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tjm73 said:

Hmmm...yeah...too bad KB doesn't make a kit for the 96-98 cars....


I've been a KB fan since '93 when a friend put one on his '93 Lightening. That thing was sick. Id' much rather have the KB as it is MUCH more efficient than the Eaton M90.

If I were to PI Swap the top end of my motor in my 98 GT, is there any reason why I couldn't run a 9psi-intercooled KB for a 99-04 car? With the appropriate computer tune of course.

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KB does have a kit for the 96-98 Gt it was developed in 96 or 97. They stopped production for a while but are now rereleasing it with the 99 and up kit.

 

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yeah

I had that blower.. ill tell you something.. with all the lowend torqe it made it sure felt fast.. iv been in cars that run low 12s high 11s and my car felt faster.. when it really wasnt.. on a stock car it will put you into the high 12s.. the blower whine is also very cool with it.. oh and as someone was saying yeah its a small blower the 03 cobra blower is bigger.. but the blower in the allen kit makes full boost 800 RPMS lower then the cobra which means more torqe.. but I am putting a paxton on my 1966..

 

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Actually, allen eng's was designed and i thought already selling a whipple - twin screw supercharger kit atleast for the newer model GT's. Should be equivalent of a Kenne Bell but its larger (2.3L's)

kirkyg

 

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kirkyg said:

Actually, allen eng's was designed and i thought already selling a whipple - twin screw supercharger kit atleast for the newer model GT's. Should be equivalent of a Kenne Bell but its larger (2.3L's)

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That's a Race Only Kit.

 

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RedGTvert said:

That's a Race Only Kit.

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How so? I'm sure all it owuld take is mild boost 9-11 psi and a good tune and youd be fine. Its intercooled isn't it?

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